DeltaSwede Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 A thing that people are missing on the topic is that they guy is a much better player playing at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BCNate said: It would be nice to have LE's cap space to use, absolutely, but not at the expense of a 1st. I think we will have enough $ to improve our team next year. Right now you have $16 mill available and likely 6.5 in LTIR and need 2 forwards, 3 defensemen and 2 spares. I'd assume that EP and Hughes take 13 of that, and that Podkolzin, Hamonic, Lind, OJ take another 5.5. Leaves you with 4 or so million to play with, before you factor in a potential JV termination/buyout, or possibly Seattle taking Holtby. Tight, but not dire.. You're right, but it doesn't allow for any forward upgrades save for guys in the system stepping up is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 59 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: What would it take for Seattle to accept Eriksson's contract full on? 1st round picks for next 3 seasons and Podkolzin??? Starting at a first and prospect/second rounder What would you accept as payment for taking on a contract like that to your team? And history shows that type of dump costs a first plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Wanless said: You're right, but it doesn't allow for any forward upgrades save for guys in the system stepping up is all. I mean, you have to see how things play out. Right now, you have about 4 mill to improve the team. I'd assume there will be a lot of pre Seattle draft moves that we could see, hopefully we can leverage one or two of those. We may need to add a 2nd and/prospect to Holtby to entice Seattle to take him. Or we could buyout Virtanen for next to nothing. Who know what happens with LE, is he going to ride the bus Abbotsford for 3 mil to end a career that he made 60 mill in? We are in OK shape, but if a few things go our way, we could be in pretty good shape to add a quality 3C and RHD. Not many teams are in a while lot better cap shape than us, and many teams won't be spending to that # anyway./ I expect we can fins some good value in the UFA market. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 hours ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: Agreed! What's the hurry? I mean, it's only been 9 years since we iced a dominant group who made it out of the 1st round? There are key moments in a rebuild, where you can louse it up badly with impatience. A good example is Burke in Hogtown with his Kessel, monster-gaffe. From where we were in 2014, we have a lot today to look fwd to. One lousy yr, so don't throw out the babe w/ the bath water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 hours ago, ItsAllOursBoys said: Agreed! What's the hurry? I mean, it's only been 9 years since we iced a dominant group who made it out of the 1st round? You mean 9 months right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Imho, the Sabres will want to package Jeff Skinner's albatross contract on any trade involving Reinhart. They will probably be "content" with one of the following: High first round pick + fillers Potential top-6 forward + fillers For example: Our first round pick + Eriksson's salary + Roussel's salary + other fillers Podkolzin + Eriksson's salary + other fillers I hope that the Benning or whoever the next GM will be will quickly hang up the phone as soon as Skinner is mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 10 hours ago, UKNuck96 said: Erm where did I say I was trading everyone because I felt like it. I was responding to your post that to get Reinhart we HAVE to trade Podz, I was stating that we don’t have to there are other options and players we could trade. It depends on what buffalo want to do, blow it up and restart in which case it’s picks and prospects, or trade one of the three and tool up to placate the other two, in which case players like Schmitt and Miller are likely to be pieces they would want - established good players They're not going to take a 29-year old in Schmidt and a 28-year old in JT Miler if they're rebuilding. That makes no sense man. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Imho, the Sabres will want to package Jeff Skinner's albatross contract on any trade involving Reinhart. They will probably be "content" with one of the following: High first round pick + fillers Potential top-6 forward + fillers For example: Our first round pick + Eriksson's salary + Roussel's salary + other fillers Podkolzin + Eriksson's salary + other fillers I hope that the Benning or whoever the next GM will be will quickly hang up the phone as soon as Skinner is mentioned. You really think a team will take Skinner (and his contract) just to get Sam? Sabres are stuck with Skinner. Way too much term still left. And Sam is a UFA in July 2022, right? He’s pretty much a rental, albeit a good one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Alflives said: You really think a team will take Skinner (and his contract) just to get Sam? Sabres are stuck with Skinner. Way too much term still left. And Sam is a UFA in July 2022, right? He’s pretty much a rental, albeit a good one. I did use the word "want". Sam's arguably their second best player after Jack the past 2 seasons as Dahlin had a terrible season this year (many Canucks fans dump on Quinn about his D but Dahlin was being roasted even worse by the Sabres fans from the stuff I read). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Alflives said: You really think a team will take Skinner (and his contract) just to get Sam? Sabres are stuck with Skinner. Way too much term still left. And Sam is a UFA in July 2022, right? He’s pretty much a rental, albeit a good one. The only way they can get rid of Skinner is in a Jack Eichel deal. Even then what team can take on $19 million in salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 9 hours ago, DeltaSwede said: A thing that people are missing on the topic is that they guy is a much better player playing at center. This is a wrinkle I had not realized. His 46% faceoff percentage, while not great is still much higher than past. Meaning he's worked on it a lot at some point. Seems like he wants to be a center. Bringing in Reino would cost Bo his 2nd line spot. Which I am sure is not something he'd take kindly too, yes he's a good dude and a great leader but not many top 6 players just accept a bottom 6 role. Miller did in Tampa but he never was used top 6 in NY so he never had to revert from being top 6 so would he go back after getting a taste of top 6 with us? Not likely. Same with Bo, he's not gonna be happy being a top 6 player than we replace him in the top 6 with Reino. Well, this definitely gives me something to ponder now. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, BCNate said: It would be nice to have LE's cap space to use, absolutely, but not at the expense of a 1st. I think we will have enough $ to improve our team next year. Right now you have $16 mill available and likely 6.5 in LTIR and need 2 forwards, 3 defensemen and 2 spares. I'd assume that EP and Hughes take 13 of that, and that Podkolzin, Hamonic, Lind, OJ take another 5.5. Leaves you with 4 or so million to play with, before you factor in a potential JV termination/buyout, or possibly Seattle taking Holtby. Tight, but not dire.. If Buffalo takes on both LE and Roussel’s contract. I’m all for giving up our first this year. That would be 9M of dead cap space off our books. Probably have to add Juolevi as well. The first round pick, doesn’t really fit the timeline of our core players. Unless we get extremely lucky, I’d say it will take that prospect a few good years to make an impact with our club (3-4 years tops). Patient isn’t on Benning’s side right now. He needs to make some huge gamble or he’ll soon be out of a job. Edited May 15, 2021 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Give them Sutter + Chatfield + 2021 2nd and 2022 1st for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, morrissex95 said: They're not going to take a 29-year old in Schmidt and a 28-year old in JT Miler if they're rebuilding. That makes no sense man. Just saying. Seriously your reading comprehension is poor - I gave two potential options and neither was a rebuild with Schmitt and Miller Edited May 15, 2021 by UKNuck96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Sorry but giving up a 1st rdr which will likely be a top 5 is a non starter for Reinhart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 LA has lots of cap space and loads of high end prospects at F to send to Buffalo. Doughty is on record saying their org needs to bring in some veteran talent in hopes to make another cup run in the next few years and also help their kids in their development to become a more competitve team again. I think if the Kings can't land Eichel, they could pursue Reinhart and it would cost them much less than Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) The rumour from the 2014 draft was that Benning was willing to offer his 2 first round picks plus Shinkaruk to the Panthers for their first overall so they could draft Reinhart. I hope they actually had their eye on Ekblad but it shows how much Benning valued Reinhart at the time if true. Could you imagine we had traded those three and drafted Ekblad though? Would have gone down as one of the most lopsided trades in our history. Although there’s a good chance Florida takes Ehlers/Nylander but still a great trade. Edited May 15, 2021 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, shiznak said: If Buffalo takes on both LE and Roussel’s contract. I’m all for giving up our first this year. That would be 9M of dead cap space off our books. Probably have to add Juolevi as well. The first round pick, doesn’t really fit the timeline of our core players. Unless we get extremely lucky, I’d say it will take that prospect a few good years to make an impact with our club (3-4 years tops). Patient isn’t on Benning’s side right now. He needs to make some huge gamble or he’ll soon be out of a job. The only player I consider trading a top 5 pick for is Seth Jones. That would be on the grounds he signs an extension. They would also have to take Roussel. Hughes - Hamonic Schmidt - Jones Juolevi/Rathbone - Myers Edited May 15, 2021 by KKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Looking at Buffalo bloggers and fans thinking up trade ideas is amusing. Since Reinhardt wants to be closer to home they theorize: Reinhart to Calgary for Matthew Tkachuk straight up. Reinhart to Vancouver for Hoglander and our 1st rounder next year.... plus they will take Pearson from us as a “cap dump” to make the money work. I counter with Myers, Virtanen, and Roussel for Reinhart and Ristolainen! Edited May 16, 2021 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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