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27 minutes ago, mll said:

Kevyn Adams says they are going to build their team with players who want to be there.  He admitted that they have players who want to move on or are indifferent but have others who really want to be part of their future (Cozens made quite the statement).  It's believed that Eichel, Ristolainen and Reinhart are on their way out.

 

He says their issue is that they have a lot of good players but they haven't meshed to build something bigger than themselves.  He insists that they are not only looking to bring in the right players but the right persons.  It sounds like a rebuild where they are going to try and get their culture right.

Guys looking to hit UFA to bolt or who are going to pout because they end up in Buffalo probably not on their wish list.

 

Could see Buffalo asking to talk to players especially veterans before making any trade - not sure their trade partner would want to grant that request but from Buffalo's side it would make sense.  They need to find players who want to try and build something there or they'll never get out of the hole they are in.

 

Ottawa looks to have something good going with their young players - might be the way to go for Buffalo too.

I actually read his comments as wanting to improve right away rather than tear down and rebuild all over again with picks and prospects.

 

It probably mostly depends on whether they can keep Eichel onboard and think they can surround him with different players.


Like if we could fashion a deal for Ristolainen and Reinhart for Schmidt, Beagle, and our 1st (assuming we don’t win the lottery), plus maybe we have to throw in either DoPietro or Juolevi... they get a good roster player and then could flip that 1st round pick for a good young NHLer under club control to immediately make over their roster next season.

 

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On 5/26/2021 at 7:32 AM, Me_ said:

I think “agressive” in this context means realizing major changes need to be done.

 

Our kids are mighty fine; Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat, Höglander, Demko…

 

Juolevi will have a major up curve, Podkolzin will probably surprise everyone on how ready he is…

 

…and Virtanen will become a full-on Covid-struck bar whore and disappear into the Vancouver night.

 

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I’m pretty sure Benning will keep his bread-and-butter 1st pick, but anything else can be had for the right price.

 

Personally, I love Miller’s game. But that’s it. 
 

Anything else to me, could be available for transaction; buyouts, not re-signing players, trades and promotions.

 

Major changes do not not need to be done.  

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2 minutes ago, Provost said:

I actually read his comments as wanting to improve right away rather than tear down and rebuild all over again with picks and prospects.

 

It probably mostly depends on whether they can keep Eichel onboard and think they can surround him with different players.


Like if we could fashion a deal for Ristolainen and Reinhart for Schmidt, Beagle, and our 1st (assuming we don’t win the lottery)... they get a good roster player and then could flip that 1st round pick for a good young NHLer under club control.

 

 

I didn't hear it that way but I guess we'll see.

 

Buffalo is into analytics and that could make it harder to convince them to take Beagle or even Schmidt.  Buffalo doesn't seem to have a partner for Schmidt and without the McNabb equivalent it could be a repeat of Vancouver.   They both have limited no trades too and not sure they'll have Buffalo on their lists.  

 

How happy would Schmidt even be - he goes from contender Vegas to Vancouver who missed the playoffs to Buffalo who is even further away.  

 

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2 hours ago, stawns said:

Major changes do not not need to be done.  

If they do not not need to be done, then they need to be done…

 

Correct?

 

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15 minutes ago, mll said:

 

I didn't hear it that way but I guess we'll see.

 

Buffalo is into analytics and that could make it harder to convince them to take Beagle or even Schmidt.  Buffalo doesn't seem to have a partner for Schmidt and without the McNabb equivalent it could be a repeat of Vancouver.   They both have limited no trades too and not sure they'll have Buffalo on their lists.  

 

How happy would Schmidt even be - he goes from contender Vegas to Vancouver who missed the playoffs to Buffalo who is even further away.  

 

The happiness of Schmidt can be counted in five point nine five million ways per year.

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Just now, Me_ said:

The happiness of Schmidt can be counted in five point nine five million ways per year.

He got that contract in Vegas thinking he’ll be there long term.   

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23 minutes ago, mll said:

 

I didn't hear it that way but I guess we'll see.

 

Buffalo is into analytics and that could make it harder to convince them to take Beagle or even Schmidt.  Buffalo doesn't seem to have a partner for Schmidt and without the McNabb equivalent it could be a repeat of Vancouver.   They both have limited no trades too and not sure they'll have Buffalo on their lists.  

 

How happy would Schmidt even be - he goes from contender Vegas to Vancouver who missed the playoffs to Buffalo who is even further away.  

 

they can be analytics based, but that doesn't change the fact that Buffalo's lineup is in tatters again. Its sad to know they are going to vacuum up more high end talent in the draft again for the next few years. 

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1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

they can be analytics based, but that doesn't change the fact that Buffalo's lineup is in tatters again. Its sad to know they are going to vacuum up more high end talent in the draft again for the next few years. 

It is but instead of trying more duct tape they should trade their unhappy players and start anew - eg Ottawa who seem to have something good going with their young players.  Replacing unhappy vets by other unhappy vets is not going to get them anywhere.  

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1 minute ago, mll said:

It is but instead of trying more duct tape they should trade their unhappy players and start anew - eg Ottawa who seem to have something good going with their young players.  Replacing unhappy vets by other unhappy vets is not going to get them anywhere.  

I totally agree with that. 

 

Can you imagine how upset Miller would be if we traded him for Reinhart, e.g.? oy. I wouldn't want to be the one giving him that news. 

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6 hours ago, cripplereh said:

If we got him for cheap and got rid of a few  then yes, but doubt he would come cheap so move on

 

 

Sutter, JV and Olli ??

What kind of gm would take those 3 for a player like reinhart? Not gonna happen. 

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Elliotte thinks Buffalo would take the high first round pick in this season to move Reinhart.

 

Reinhart an RFA this summer....is 9th enough to get it done. JB has had an affinity for Reinhart since 2014 and even offered Shinkaruk, 6th overall (Virtanen), and 24th overall (McCann) to Florida and Buffalo.

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11 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:
Reinhart an RFA this summer....is 9th enough to get it done. JB has had an affinity for Reinhart since 2014 and even offered Shinkaruk, 6th overall (Virtanen), and 24th overall (McCann) to Florida and Buffalo.

While intriguing, I'm wondering if the better play is (hopefully) getting a stud from the draft and having him contribute in a year or so on a cheap ELC. No guarantees of course, but being that Reinhart needs a new contract that IS a guaranteed expense...

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To Canucks:  Reinhart

To Sabres:  9OA + Rathbone + Roussel

 

Sabres get two potential future core pieces while helping the Canucks accommodate Reinhart’s salary.   I’m not a fan of the idea of trading Rathbone but realistically, Reinhart would likely cost the 9OA + one of Hoglander / Podkolzin / Rathbone.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, Patel Bure said:

To Canucks:  Reinhart

To Sabres:  9OA + Rathbone + Roussel

 

Sabres get two potential future core pieces while helping the Canucks accommodate Reinhart’s salary.   I’m not a fan of the idea of trading Rathbone but realistically, Reinhart would likely cost the 9OA + one of Hoglander / Podkolzin / Rathbone.  

 

 

From what we've seen with the flat cap it's a stretch to say that's an overpayment. 

 

The fact we are so bare in prospects I'd hate to give up 9th and Rathbone..

 

2022 first, JV, 2021 2nd and Rafferty!

 

Considering all these top tier players are wanting to leave... 

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15 minutes ago, Patel Bure said:

To Canucks:  Reinhart

To Sabres:  9OA + Rathbone + Roussel

 

Sabres get two potential future core pieces while helping the Canucks accommodate Reinhart’s salary.   I’m not a fan of the idea of trading Rathbone but realistically, Reinhart would likely cost the 9OA + one of Hoglander / Podkolzin / Rathbone.  

 

 

overpayment with rathbone, throw in Ollie who was the fifth pick

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Have to think about it from Buffalo's perspe tive too, not just what makes sense for the Canucks.

 

They are going to want a young, core player back for Reinhart most likely. They cant go back into a rebuild taking picks and prospects. Or even worse, taking on garbage contracts for overpaid, underwhelming players. Doesnt help them sell big change to their fan base.

 

9th OA plus two guys like Eriksson, Beahle, Roussel, etc aint happening. They have enough garbage contracts they will get offers where they dont have to take any back. 

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