Popular Post JM_ Posted May 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: You expect him to reveal his sources that are giving him inside info? (not saying he's legit, I don't know the writer's credibility level) I'd expect a bit more detail... was it other exec's? even "sources with the team". One thing I do know is Gillis isn't coming back. We'll see Jesus before we see Mike. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I go by this with Aquilini: Read the whole tweet, yes it was from a couple of months ago, but they knew this was going to be a hard season, and he gave full endorsement of Benning and Green, before the whole team got Covid. Will be surprised if Benning and Green aren't back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I would love to have Gillis back with the current scouting staff. NTC's are still better than high-salary contracts that nobody wants. Benning is the worst GM in the league, and arguably one of the worst General Managers in the post-lockout era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: I go by this with Aquilini: Read the whole tweet, yes it was from a couple of months ago, but they knew this was going to be a hard season, and he gave full endorsement of Benning and Green, before the whole team got Covid. Will be surprised if Benning and Green aren't back. Any team could have made that tweet and it would be appropriate. It's a garbage excuse. Edited May 14, 2021 by kanucks25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, Alflives said: benning did draft a really good young core, but (maybe?) a new guy needs to come in to take the team to the next level. Not too sure. Drafting is a team effort I've heard so I say a team of scouts drafted good. Likewise under Gillis, a team of scouts drafted bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, Alflives said: wasn't gillis arguably our most successful GM ever? He did do a great job filling out a roster to support a younger core group, and provided an environment for winning. I just don't know is he will come back here after how it ended for him? Maybe FA will ask? I think “most successful” Canucks GM is without question, when you look at Gillis’s record. That doesn’t make him the “best” GM (that honour belongs to Pat Quinn, and I’m not sure I’d actually put MG any higher than 3rd or 4th, on an all time Canucks GM ranking) but you can’t argue with Gillis’ tenure being the most successful six years ever seen by this franchise. 5 Division titles, 10 playoff rounds, one Stanley Cup Final, 2 Presidents’ Trophies (the only two ever won by the Canucks), GM of the Year (only time for a Canucks GM), and IIRC the best points percentage of any GM in Canucks history. No Canucks GM has ever put together a better team than Mike Gillis did, nor enjoyed the same level of sustained on-ice success, over a six year period (well, the first five years, anyway). Then, there’s the business side, as Gillis was also named President of CSE (Canucks Sports and Entertainment), from 2009 to his dismissal, and so he wasn’t just in charge of hockey ops. When he took over, the Vancouver franchise was the 8th or 9th most valuable in the league, at somewhere just over $200 million. Six years later, the Canucks were worth around $800 million, and had peaked at the 4th most valuable NHL team. Since Gillis left, the team has dropped to around $700 million in value, and will likely fall outside the top-10 most valuable NHL teams this year. So yeah, without a doubt, Gillis was the most successful GM (and President) in Canucks history. (And before anyone feels the need to fire off a reply: this post is not me saying MG shouldn’t have been fired.) 1 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 How can you get better at being smart than hiring “The Professor” to be our new President? Hall of famer Larionov has won everything in hockey there is to win. Experience as a player, agent, GM, and coach. Instant respect from his peers, the guy is a legend... and former team mate of guys who run other teams now. I will keep beating this drum until it happens. He can then pick an experienced GM and Coach of his choosing. We have some good pieces to play his “possession” style of hockey idea. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Alflives said: wasn't gillis arguably our most successful GM ever? He did do a great job filling out a roster to support a younger core group, and provided an environment for winning. I just don't know is he will come back here after how it ended for him? Maybe FA will ask? Well, I guess he did make some of our more memorable trades welcomed by all on CDC. Vancouver Canucks acquire Date Carolina Hurricanes acquire Zac DalpeJeremy Welsh September 29, 2013 Kellan Tochkin2014 4th round pick Vancouver Canucks acquire Date Florida Panthers acquire Keith BallardVictor Oreskovich June 25, 2010 Steve BernierMichael Grabner2010 1st round pick (#25-Quinton Howden) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Quinton Howden…what coulda been 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Quinton Howden…what coulda been Yeah, I'm thinking the Panthers should have drafted Kuznetsov, Charlie Coyle, Brock Nelson or Justin Faulk who were all still available when they took Howden. Pretty sure if we had retained the 25th overall pick that Gillis would have selected Tyler Toffoli though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckleheads fan Posted May 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: If FA want the Canuck brand to grow he needs a thinker like Gillis. Not a spoiled ex player like Benning stuck in old times. Gillis was horrible at drafting and left the cupboard absolutely bare, if anything the success for those teams was thanks to AV, who I believe is maybe the best coach we've ever had. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alflives said: benning did draft a really good young core, but (maybe?) a new guy needs to come in to take the team to the next level. Not too sure. I think it's time yah... The next step needs to be with a GM with a new perspective. I've been a benning supporter all the way along. But just like when Gillis took over from the Burke/Nonis era to complete the puzzle, I think we need someone else to take this great young core and fill in the holes with the right pieces. Edited May 15, 2021 by Hogs & Podz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, VegasCanuck said: Gillis gave out NTC's and NMC's like they were candy at Halloween. There are circumstances where you need to use them, but he over used them in a big way. It made it hard when we changed management, to clear out aging players for draft picks and start again. As much as fans want to think you can just move guys regardless, if someone has an NTC and says, "NO, not waiving", you're kind of screwed. You mean like the ones given AR LE sutter Pearson beagle Myers I’m sure I’m missing a dozen going back to when this failure (Jb) got hired. . Max term Max value and trade protection. they would be hard pressed to find a Gm that would do worse than Jim Benning. Jb was just like most of the players he over paid for a simple place holder till something better comes along and at this point anything is better. Edited May 14, 2021 by combover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: the article doesn't cite any sources... just says he was "on the phone"... with who? maybe Aquilini will make changes, but why wait until the season is over? you'd think if Jim was on the way out it would have been done by now. Or after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Interesting. (Farhan is quoting Sekeres however, so this probably means Benning is getting his contract renegotiated so the Canucks can sign him to a lifetime extension. ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Well might as well just trade draft picks. They are better than 90% of Gillis' picks. He might be able to run things. But he is awful drafting. (Bo and Hutton are exceptions) I think we'd see Gorton before Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Well might as well just trade draft picks. They are better than 90% of Gillis' picks. He might be able to run things. But he is awful drafting. (Bo and Hutton are exceptions) I think we'd see Gorton before Gillis. It’ll never happen, but a Gorton GM, with Gillis President, Canucks front office would have some definite potential, especially if they were given the chance to do a wholesale restructuring of both hockey ops and the business side. Need more than a Sekeres rumour, however, before taking anything seriously, when it comes to today’s #FireBenning story having any kind of legs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 How about Chris MacFarland, A/GM for the Avs, who has worked closely with Sakic since 2015? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 This thread. OH YEAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 If their wives & kids allow them, it's high-time to bring in the Bro-combo as dual-GM's! Henrik & Daniel are as committed as humanly poss. Set up that amazingly clever negotiation tactic, with rival GM's..."Did I say that? Maybe you were chattin' with that OTHER guy!" Work the spin-cycle with 2 telephones, until excess 1st rounders are sent our way. Other 31 won't know what hit'em! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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