bishopshodan Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, BPA said: Lol. Ya I noticed that afterwards. Meant to also quote stawns. But too lazy to fix it. all good. i often agree with myself too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Pettersson Hughes Boeser Miller Hoglander Rathbone Pearson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 15 hours ago, stawns said: This is the most depth this organization has ever had on the 46 years I've been a fan The homerism is top-notch I’ll give you that. Most organizational depth in 46 years but can’t make the playoffs or finish ahead of the rebuilding Senators. Where you getting the good kush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Johnny Torts said: Pettersson Hughes Boeser Miller Hoglander Rathbone Pearson Pearson? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Pearson? ... U don’t like Pearson not my problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) On 5/19/2021 at 7:21 AM, stawns said: This is the most depth this organization has ever had on the 46 years I've been a fan Still? This just goes to show how blind fans are with respect to Jim Benning and co. Jim needs to go and many have been echoing this sentiment for years. Edited November 23, 2021 by JohnTavares 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 Some of these takes aged so poorly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I think if you're still supporting management at this point, you don't really care who is managing. Iron Mike could come back to be the next GM and I think he'd have the support of a lot of people who just wan't to watch the Canucks and aren't really bothered by if they ever win a Stanley Cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 3:59 PM, King Heffy said: I liked what I saw from OJ so far; don't be surprised to see him in the top 4. As for Jake, most teams missed in that draft. The only guy from 4-10 that turned out to be useful was Ehlers. OJ Top 4? Maybe back in Finland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I’ll stay out of this one and let those who want to continue to celebrate a failure unable achieve even mediocrity console one another with the same worn out excuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 4:26 PM, Alflives said: OJ will be a player for us. I see him as taking much of Edler’s minutes. Plus OJ passes fantastic. Nylander is always going to be “Double Flamingo” boy. Yessir. 54k posts and still failing at evaluating talent... are you sure you're not Jim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 4:38 PM, Sbriggs said: Juolevei was not a miss, he has had injury issues and now seems to be fine and will be a top 4, JV is a bust but in JB defence no GM bats 100% and considering what he has done with our prospect pool I'll forgive him on the few picks he may have missed on Yessssssssir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) I have watched the Canucks for close to 50 years . This team has some potential to be as good as 09 to 11. However it is missing a lot of pieces and it was not the time to go all in. There is also some concerns about Petey being a true number one center. No number one center and your done. Plus I have concerns about overall construction and chemistry. It is important that the pieces add up to a team and not just a bunch of talented players. I think it is time for a new set of eyes. Hughes is have a much better year defensively. I think. Edited November 23, 2021 by appleboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 4:14 PM, King Heffy said: The vets were signed to avoid going full Edmonton and destroying prospects in roles they weren't able to handle. The overpayments were necessary due to the team being bad, in a market with high taxes. The success of the young players so early pulled the team back into contention quicker than expected, which made the contracts an issue. DESTROYING PROSPECTS I thought you said that was all Greens fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 4:38 PM, Sbriggs said: Juolevei was not a miss, he has had injury issues and now seems to be fine and will be a top 4, JV is a bust but in JB defence no GM bats 100% and considering what he has done with our prospect pool I'll forgive him on the few picks he may have missed on On 5/16/2021 at 4:41 PM, Sbriggs said: No way, OJ has been too limited on his ice time and when he has been in the lineup he has been good. He'll for sure be a top 4. I see you like to shout loudly about the misses that JB has had at the draft but what about his hits? Several home runs as I see it and the best GM at drafting in Canucks history On 5/16/2021 at 5:16 PM, bishopshodan said: JB is good. He has drafted very well. I think that completely explains my opinion in great detail. On 5/16/2021 at 6:23 PM, Alflives said: Like pointed out before to this rather “dishonest” OP, rebuilding teams cover for those first rounders that aren’t home runs by finding gems later in the draft. Benning found Rathbone, and Hollander outside of round one. That’s how winn8ng teams are built. On 5/16/2021 at 7:23 PM, Sbriggs said: No I've just been a fan for 40+ years and hate solid negativity On 5/16/2021 at 7:37 PM, Patel Bure said: OJ still has lots of time to develop into a good hockey player. To put things into perspective, he’s only 6 months older than Cale Makar. On 5/17/2021 at 6:05 AM, Alflives said: Lots of crying by the OP, so here you go friend. It’s going to be okay. On 5/17/2021 at 7:47 AM, Elias Pettersson said: There are no honest discussions going on here about management. This thread should be closed for false pretenses. On 5/16/2021 at 4:26 PM, Alflives said: OJ will be a player for us. I see him as taking much of Edler’s minutes. Plus OJ passes fantastic. Nylander is always going to be “Double Flamingo” boy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) On 5/19/2021 at 4:21 PM, stawns said: This is the most depth this organization has ever had on the 46 years I've been a fan Two years ago we had better depth. Tanev, Stecher, Toffoli, Gaudette, Virtanen, Edler, Fantenberg, Leivo, Roussell, Beagle, Erikssån(hunted down here but one of the more intelligent and aware defensiively players we had) and Benn. Eleven players had over 50% in point production. This season it’s six players. Back then we had a lot of depthreserve in Utica also with players like MacEwan, Gadjovich, Goldobin, Baertschi… Edited November 23, 2021 by Timråfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I was a supporter of Benning but at this point, no matter if you are pro Jim or not it is time for a new GM. Jim is a compromised GM and no longer able to extract any fair value in player transaction. Every other GM and agents know he is desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, JohnTavares said: Too much effort John. It's also not very nice to laugh at people. I still like JB. Would like to see Green gone though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bishopshodan said: I still like JB. How? I still stand by many, if not most, of JB's moves.. but I'm not a professional,1 of only 32 on this planet, GM....and it's a results based business, so how could you possibly still like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 2:12 PM, 73 Percent said: I support JB because hes the best drafting GM we've ever had. I'm a firm believer that that is how you build a team. Build through the draft and supplement through FA and trades. I want to make a couple comments I dont agree with in your original post (cor the record I think it's well thought out and reasonable, unlike the typical &^@# managment content). You go on to criticize Benning for letting toffoli walk, then criticize him for retaing Pearson. Textbook contradiction. JB has his flaws. This isnt one of them. He learned from his mistake. Toffoli isnt a PPG guy. Hes having a year he wont repeat ever again. BOOK IT. if JB doesnt sign pearson all his haters come back and say he lost an asset when we acquired him and let him walk for nothing if he has a decent year. Toffoli played here for a couple months. LET IT GO HE WAS A RENTAL. As for not trading Virtanen he was coming of a year that he would have been a 20g20a forward. He was supposed to be our toffoli this year. That didnt pan out due to jake being jake. This has nothing to do with JB. Like the Pearson/toffoli thing if we traded virt to keep tanev, and virt goes off and tanev played his regular 50 games (in an 82 game season) you criticize JB for that too. Theres no winning against a monday morning QB. Which is what you and many of JBs critics do. Bad GMs are good at nothing (snow). Good Gms are good at a couple things (benning). Great GMs are good at everything (yzerman). I support JB because hes a good JB albeit not great one. so, the bottom line is you are accepting of mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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