mll Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, awalk said: Who was the director of scouting before Brackett? Was it still Delorme? Eric Crawford - he was fired at the same time as Henning, Gillman. Delorme was already demoted under Gillis but retained his title. Brackett reported to Weisbrod per the press release announcing his promotion to head amateur scout. Edited May 25, 2021 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Benning deserves full credit for promoting Brackett and listening to him. Definitely. My point was going to be that you can't pin any picks on one scout, even the dir. of scouting. It's ultimately the GM making the call but seems very collaborative up until that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, mll said: Eric Crawford - he was fired at the same time as Henning, Gillman. Delorme was already demoted under Gillis but retained his title. Brackett reported to Weisbrod per the press release announcing his promotion to head amateur scout. Thats what I thought but Looking at Crawfords employment record it didn't seem to match that time line... did he get let go and then re hired for about a year or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Was Gradin head of scouting for a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, awalk said: Was Gradin head of scouting for a time? No, he never was the guy. He is more like one of the guy. Guess he is in charge of Sweden if nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 JB promoted and directed Brackett to look for skilled players. He deserves credit for recognizing talent on his team and promoting him to a higher position. But Brackett was a good talent and earned the promotion. After being promoted he did a great job finding and drafting talented players. As an example it's like EP being a top line player. He was promoted to 1st line but only because he deserves it and performs well in his position. We may or may not have another guy with Bracketts capabilities to promote. Only time and performance will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, WHL rocks said: JB promoted and directed Brackett to look for skilled players. He deserves credit for recognizing talent on his team and promoting him to a higher position. But Brackett was a good talent and earned the promotion. After being promoted he did a great job finding and drafting talented players. As an example it's like EP being a top line player. He was promoted to 1st line but only because he deserves it and performs well in his position. We may or may not have another guy with Bracketts capabilities to promote. Only time and performance will tell. Brackett definitely a huge loss. Has there been any player after Brackett's leaving where a player has made a huge difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Silky mitts said: For the canucks pick barring a d man falling, I can see us grabbing a center, mctavish or kent johnson to have a really strong corps down the middle wouldn't be opposed to Kent Johnson. But I'm scared after drafting Virtanen.... How's Johnson's work ethic compared to Jake's? If it's hundreds of miles ahead of Virtanen, I'd feel a little more at ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: wouldn't be opposed to Kent Johnson. But I'm scared after drafting Virtanen.... How's Johnson's work ethic compared to Jake's? If it's hundreds of miles ahead of Virtanen, I'd feel a little more at ease. What similarities are there to Virtanen that scares you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 24K PureCool said: No, he never was the guy. He is more like one of the guy. Guess he is in charge of Sweden if nothing else. He's definitely been our lead scout in Scandanavia and I think Europe. But I guess no director of scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Brackett definitely a huge loss. Has there been any player after Brackett's leaving where a player has made a huge difference? Too early to say teally. He hasnt been gone that long and the Canucks had no high picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 4:49 PM, Gollumpus said: True, but for some here the poor kid will never lose the stigma of "only being a 9th OA pick". regards, G. Like Horvat...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, CaptKirk888 said: Like Horvat...? Sadly, it's true. I've noticed on different sites people doing an "LOL" when Horvat's name is mentioned. The usual comment is along the lines of, "The Canucks will never win the Cup with a guy who was a 9th OA pick...". It saddens me deeply. regards, G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gollumpus said: Sadly, it's true. I've noticed on different sites people doing an "LOL" when Horvat's name is mentioned. The usual comment is along the lines of, "The Canucks will never win the Cup with a guy who was a 9th OA pick...". It saddens me deeply. regards, G. They are idiots. Cup winning captains of note Joe Sakic 15th pick Rod Brind’Amour 9th pick Dave Andreychuk 16th pick Nicklas Lidstrom 3rd rd, 11th pk!!! Zdeno Chara. 3rd rd, 4th pk!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, N4ZZY said: wouldn't be opposed to Kent Johnson. But I'm scared after drafting Virtanen.... How's Johnson's work ethic compared to Jake's? If it's hundreds of miles ahead of Virtanen, I'd feel a little more at ease. Jake able to Outman most guys in Jr. Very rare that translates to the show and when it does it's obvious. Johnson is skill question is whether or not it translates to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Dang, looking more and more like Brandt Clarke will be in the top-4. Gotta believe one of Luke Hughes or Dylan Guenther could fall to 9th.. right? right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 We are not winning the draft lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: We are not winning the draft lottery. Good. We should trade it for Cernak then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Good. We should trade it for Cernak then. Nah we’d benefit longer from a 9th overall pick than a 23 year old 4th D. Not that I wouldn’t mind Cernak but not for the 9th pick. Or at least try for someone better with the 9th. Edited May 26, 2021 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) On 5/19/2021 at 3:52 PM, J-Dizzle said: I doubt we win the lottery after back to back in 2017/18 Me too,bpa Edited May 26, 2021 by Cromeslab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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