bishopshodan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Well one thing I know is awesome, is that MTL just beat the Laffs.. Edited May 21, 2021 by bishopshodan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204CanucksFan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The system is on the coach, and the one Brown is employing is absolutely moronic. Bad coaching can absolutely handicap a PP, which is what is happening here. Almost every team in the league uses the drop pass for PP zone entry. The coach teaches the system, which has us with the 8th most PP goals since Brown took over as coach. Not coming up with the big, timely goal to win the game is on the players, they have to come through in those clutch moments not the coaches. All the coach can do is motivate and attempt to adjust game plans on the fly. Players still do the actual playing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: Nope, problem is woke people who think anyone that thinks differently than them is the enemy and needs to be silenced, that’s what’s really selfish. Again...it's not what you people are doing, it's how your doing it!! Open your eyes & ears before you comment again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, 204CanucksFan said: Almost every team in the league uses the drop pass for PP zone entry. The coach teaches the system, which has us with the 8th most PP goals since Brown took over as coach. Not coming up with the big, timely goal to win the game is on the players, they have to come through in those clutch moments not the coaches. All the coach can do is motivate and attempt to adjust game plans on the fly. Players still do the actual playing Most coaches don't instruct the players to stay motionless once they gain entry though. The system isn't working and it's time to hire a qualified assistant coach instead of the clown currently sabotaging the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, tas said: if a system works well most of the time but not some others, is that a coaching/systems problem or a personnel/execution issue? I would certainly lean to the latter. the coaches aren't controlling these guys with PlayStation controllers. When your powerplay becomes predictable throughout a game and the coaches can’t adapt then yes it is on the coaches. Most teams figure out our powerplay very quickly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: I wish he would let some of his players play the way that he did when he played. I remember him as a bit of a tough nut hard worker, would get his nose dirty. It feel like he sometimes punishes guys for showing emotion. I don't know that I buy into that. Who is going to play that role? We don't really have those kind of players. You can't have 2 guys that sometimes are tough unless actual tough guys are on the ice and expect to have team toughness. This is a pretty small/soft team and that's also a big part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 204CanucksFan said: Almost every team in the league uses the drop pass for PP zone entry. The coach teaches the system, which has us with the 8th most PP goals since Brown took over as coach. Not coming up with the big, timely goal to win the game is on the players, they have to come through in those clutch moments not the coaches. All the coach can do is motivate and attempt to adjust game plans on the fly. Players still do the actual playing Gotta admit, I was looking for a post that would support keeping Brown....here you are Every team uses the drop pass but we seem like a one trick pony. So, are you saying Green tells Brown how to run the PP? what is the point of a PP coach then? Do they just call out the line changes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, DeNiro said: We seem to end with decent powerplay stats but it seems more often than not we can’t get the big goal we need on the powerplay Having Pete out for 30 games didn't help either. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: When your powerplay becomes predictable throughout a game and the coaches can’t adapt then yes it is on the coaches. Most teams figure out our powerplay very quickly. execution, not coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, FlyLow_ said: I don't know that I buy into that. Who is going to play that role? We don't really have those kind of players. You can't have 2 guys that sometimes are tough unless actual tough guys are on the ice and expect to have team toughness. This is a pretty small/soft team and that's also a big part of the problem. I feel he has benched dudes for getting their hands dirty, but maybe that's just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 IF Clark was/is wanting to stay, he should have been 1st priority to re-sign. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204CanucksFan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Gotta admit, I was looking for a post that would support keeping Brown....here you are Every team uses the drop pass but we seem like a one trick pony. So, are you saying Green tells Brown how to run the PP? what is the point of a PP coach then? Do they just call out the line changes? No I'm saying the PP coach teaches the PP systems. I put my full opinion on the situation regarding Brown in a post on page 13 Edited May 21, 2021 by 204CanucksFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, Hogs & Podz said: IF Clark was/is wanting to stay, he should have been 1st priority to re-sign. Maybe Florida is offering him big money? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, 204CanucksFan said: No I'm saying the PP coach teaches the PP systems. Oh, thanks. So maybe more ideas than the drop pass entry is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The only one I want replaced is Baumer. Green and Newell aren't perfect but they're far from the root of our problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Maybe Florida is offering him big money? Was thinking the same... Bob obviously isn't trusted by coach Q... And they have Bob on the books for many more years... What a mess. I'm sure Florida's offering Clark a blank check and saying whatever it takes!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, tas said: execution, not coaching. Both. If the players aren’t executing its up to the coaches to make adjustments like taking players off the powerplay or switching positions/strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: Was thinking the same... Bob obviously isn't trusted by coach Q... And they have Bob on the books for many more years... What a mess. I'm sure Florida's offering Clark a blank check and saying whatever it takes!!! Florida has 20 year old Spencer Knight too. Clarke works his magic getting goalie Bob back to top play, while developing Knight. Big money offer. Live in FLA. Retire there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Florida has 20 year old Spencer Knight too. Clarke works his magic getting goalie Bob back to top play, while developing Knight. Big money offer. Live in FLA. Retire there. Yah... If he leaves... Then I thinks it's to Florida for sure. I'll be worried for Demko of he does. Seems as soon as Clark moves on, the goalies he coached fall apart!! I'm generally pretty level headed about most moves when it comes to this team but this one I've been worried about for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Hogs & Podz said: Yah... If he leaves... Then I thinks it's to Florida for sure. I'll be worried for Demko of he does. Seems as soon as Clark moves on, the goalies he coached fall apart!! I'm generally pretty level headed about most moves when it comes to this team but this one I've been worried about for a while... I think we still have Cloutier in the organization. But he doesn’t exactly breed confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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