Patel Bure Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) [proposal] Moving up to land 1st overall in the draft. Would it be worth it? Obviously - this idea is contingent on how we do in the actual lottery, but would it be worth it from our perspective to try and move up? This year’s draft is said to be a little weak relative to these past few years and so would this increase our chance? From my perspective, the Canucks’ biggest organizational need right now is a long term Alex Edler replacement. A top pairing, all-situations defenseman that can log big minutes and take on tough match ups. Hence, my interest in Owen Power or even a Simon Edvinsson. I don’t know how many spots we’d move up by packaging [Rathbone + 2021 1st], but I’d be willing to explore this option if by doing so landed us Power or Edvinsson. Edited May 26, 2021 by Patel Bure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: Would it be worth it? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: Would it be worth it? Yes - If we win the lottery for the #1 pick No - If we are trading up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 It depends on what Gary's price is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I'd do that deal for Power. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to trade down for Svozil unless Benning really likes one of the guys available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe-max Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: [proposal] Moving up to land 1st overall in the draft. Would it be worth it? Short answer: no. Long answer: nooooooooooooo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Trading the 1st overall pick almost never happens and moving up from 9th overall to 1st would be historic. I can only remember two trades involving the 1st overall pick happening on draft day. In 2003 Pittsburgh moved up from picking 3rd to picking 1st overall in a trade with Florida. Pittsburgh selected Marc-Andre Fleury with that pick. Florida Panthers acquire Date Pittsburgh Penguins acquire Mikael Samuelsson2003 1st round pick (#3-Nathan Horton)2003 2nd round pick (#55-Stefan Meyer) June 21, 2003 2003 1st round pick (#1-Marc-Andre Fleury)2003 3rd round pick (#73-Daniel Carcillo) The other one was 1999 when Burke swung the deals to get the Sedins and that one was very complicated. Vancouver Canucks acquire Date Chicago Blackhawks acquire 1999 1st round pick (#4-Pavel Brendl) June 25, 1999 Bryan McCabe2000 or 2001 1st round pick (2000 #11-Pavel Vorobiev) Vancouver Canucks acquire Date Atlanta Thrashers acquire 1999 1st round pick (#2-Daniel Sedin)2000 conditional 3rd round pick (#67-Max Birbraer) June 25, 1999 1999 1st round pick (#1-Patrik Stefan) Vancouver Canucks acquire Date Tampa Bay Lightning acquire 1999 1st round pick (#1-Patrik Stefan) June 26, 1999 1999 1st round pick (#4-Pavel Brendl)1999 3rd round pick (#75-Brett Scheffelmaier)1999 3rd round pick (#88-Jimmie Olvestad) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 lol no team is trading away a 1st overall pick unless it is for eichel or mcdavid or draistial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I don't think its worth it, especially this year when there's so little knowledge on the draft class. No one has really seen them play this year, its more of a crap shoot than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Rather trade for pick 2 or 3 and pick between brandt or benier. Be cheaper anyways lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 We're not trading Jack Rathbone. Also, Power is ranked by some people at #6, so there is no clear cut #1 this year. If Buffalo wins the lottery and trades Eichel they may go for Matthew Beniers as the #1 overall pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, the grinder said: lol no team is trading away a 1st overall pick unless it is for eichel or mcdavid or draistial I wouldn't put Eichel in there... McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisatl... that's the 3 worth a 1OA right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: I wouldn't put Eichel in there... McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisatl... that's the 3 worth a 1OA right now. Lol no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, HKSR said: I wouldn't put Eichel in there... McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisatl... that's the 3 worth a 1OA right now. Eichel is the only one of those 4 worth a #1 overall pick. The others are worth MORE than ONE first overall pick... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Eichel is the only one of those 4 worth a #1 overall pick. The others are worth MORE than ONE first overall pick... I could name at least 50 players worth more than this years 1OA 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I could name at least 50 players worth more than this years 1OA True. I was just referring to the 4 players that were mentioned. McDavid would be starting at 3 #1 OA picks PLUS a top 6 player PLUS a top prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: True. I was just referring to the 4 players that were mentioned. McDavid would be starting at 3 #1 OA picks PLUS a top 6 player PLUS a top prospect. U imagine if we gave up petterson for this years 1OA and thats it, id be livid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: U imagine if we gave up petterson for this years 1OA and thats it, id be livid. For this year yes. But Pettersson was basically like a #1 OA pick when we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: For this year yes. But Pettersson was basically like a #1 OA pick when we drafted him. Well yeah but i wouldnt take a chance of getting a guy like petey in this years draft. Lots of really good players but not banking on a talent like petey or other 1OA talents. Bedard well yeah u gotta think about that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: True. I was just referring to the 4 players that were mentioned. McDavid would be starting at 3 #1 OA picks PLUS a top 6 player PLUS a top prospect. Edmonton would be insane to trade McDavid. Without him, they're a lottery team all over again. 16 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: U imagine if we gave up petterson for this years 1OA and thats it, id be livid. We're not trading Pettersson for a draft pick. We already put millions of development dollars into him, whether it be video, conditioning, weight-lifting, dieting, skating and the list goes on. Teams do not trade guys they've invested into for a draft pick that they're going to have to invest even more money into. It makes no sense business wise. That's why teams don't trade young players for draft picks, they trade older players for draft picks to teams that need help to make the playoffs. Once the team that acquires the rental makes the playoffs, they make money off of TV revenue, tickets, jerseys, endorsements and so on, which makes trading the draft pick worthwhile financially. That's what this game is about, dollars and cents. If you look at the dollars and the cents, it would be a foolhardy endeavor to trade Pettersson instead of doubling down on the investment especially after we won a playoff round last year. Ownership would like to win a championship, but if we make the playoffs frequently enough ownership is not going to lose any sleep over not winning the cup as long as the team is making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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