[Speculation] Is Schmidt on the move?

[DeNiro]

3 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

Schmidt + Jake for Jones extended makes a ton of sense for both sides. CBJ can't keep players those 2 are cost controlled for a while. As long as CBJ isn't on Schmidt's 10 team no trade list

 

Columbus blocks Bennings number after that offer.

[Chris12345]

12 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

Schmidt + Jake for Jones extended makes a ton of sense for both sides. CBJ can't keep players those 2 are cost controlled for a while. As long as CBJ isn't on Schmidt's 10 team no trade list

 

Zero sense for Columbus.

 

A number 4 dman on a bad contract + a third liner doesn't get you a number 1 dman.

Edited July 2, 2021 by Chris12345

[Angry Goose]

Also, if NS wants out that badly (again who knows) you'd think you'd work with the Canucks and step back a bit from alyout no trade list

[86Viking]

2 hours ago, DontMessMe said:

Why did we even let Tanev go for this guy? His contract "sucks." If he was making 4M I wouldnt have too much of an issue but 6M damn 

This is 100% bang on! We made this trade well into the FA period, which means it was Days AFTER Tanev and Toffoli signed their sub 4.5m/year contracts. So, if the Canuck GM would've just kept Hughes' reliable D partner we wouldn't be talking about trying to make a move now with Schmidt and his 5.9m cap hit to try and get a RHD to play in our top 4 ideally with Hughes.

 

This is exactly when I felt the current Canuck GM had no idea how to assemble or keep a quality team together. You have a young STUD offensive D man in Hughes who is a LHD, he excelled and loved playing with Mr. Reliable Chris "often injured, but not in my contract year" Tanev. But as the GM you go and say nope, we don't want to even try to make a deal with you after 10 years with the team on top of the great fit you were a great fit with our 21 yr old star offensive D Mr. Hughes.

 

This SCREAMS INCOMPETENCE or whatever the word is and to think the Owners of this team still have faith in him, mind blowing to me as a fan. Sure things can turn around, but sure looks bad now when you let both Tanev and TT walk for deals under 4.5m per and the same contract term left as Nate Schmidt who came in just under a 6m cap hit AND you had to give up a 3rd round pick whereas Tanev and Trade Deadline pickup TT were already on the team and recently acquired.

 

I will always love the Canucks, but the GM and maybe even the head coach have lost my faith in them and how the team is constructed/deployed. But I will give the coaching staff till Christmas to see how the Brad Shaw addition impacts our team in a most positive way I think we are all hoping!

[86Viking]

On HFboards there was a trade offer from a Dallas fan for Schmidt

 

Schimdt 5.9m- soon to be 30, 4 more years

 

for

 

Esa Lindell 5.8m x 4 yrs : 27yr old Finnish player, could mentor Juolevi

 

Thoughts? I know its another Lefty, but could be Edler replacement with maybe Hughes or Rathbone 1 day playing the Right side? 

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

On HFboards there was a trade offer from a Dallas fan for Schmidt

 

Schimdt 5.9m- soon to be 30, 4 more years

 

for

 

Esa Lindell 5.8m x 4 yrs : 27yr old Finnish player, could mentor Juolevi

 

Thoughts? I know its another Lefty, but could be Edler replacement with maybe Hughes or Rathbone 1 day playing the Right side? 

Is Lindell any good?  

[Silky mitts]

[Dirtman]

I still think we need to give Schmidt this next year to see how he fits in. That being said, I'll defer to Jet Black.

[JustABandwagoner]

1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said:

This is exactly when I felt the current Canuck GM had no idea how to assemble or keep a quality team together.

Im going to get so much HATE for this joke. Maybe thats why we are keeping jim. So the Sedins can watch what he does, and do the complete opposite . Learn what NOT to do from jim (besides scouting - hes a decent scout) 

[Nigerian]

2 hours ago, Angry Goose said:

Also, if NS wants out that badly (again who knows) you'd think you'd work with the Canucks and step back a bit from alyout no trade list

Have there been reports of him wanting out? 

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

2 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

On HFboards there was a trade offer from a Dallas fan for Schmidt

 

Schimdt 5.9m- soon to be 30, 4 more years

 

for

 

Esa Lindell 5.8m x 4 yrs : 27yr old Finnish player, could mentor Juolevi

 

Thoughts? I know its another Lefty, but could be Edler replacement with maybe Hughes or Rathbone 1 day playing the Right side? 

I would streak through DT Vancouver naked if this happened. Why would Dallas do this?

[Sean Monahan]

21 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

I would streak through DT Vancouver naked if this happened. Why would Dallas do this?

Yeah we take that deal and run if it’s offered, WADR to Schmidty (he’s getting a little over criticized on CDC lately it seems). Weird proposal for a Stars fan to throw out. 

[WHL rocks]

5 hours ago, Rush17 said:

Schmidt + Jake for Jones extended makes a ton of sense for both sides. CBJ can't keep players those 2 are cost controlled for a while. As long as CBJ isn't on Schmidt's 10 team no trade list

 

Benning wouldn't embarrass himself by making an offer like that. 

[Maginator]

Can someone update me? I dont feel like scrolling through 20 pages. Is this just an unsubstantiated rumour or does Schmidt actually reportedly "want out"?

Edited July 2, 2021 by Maginator

[4petesake]

18 minutes ago, Maginator said:

Can someone update me? I dont feel like scrolling through 20 pages. Is this just an unsubstantiated rumour or does Schmidt actually reportedly "want out"?

Just unsubstantiated rumours at this point. Reported by three different guys who are likely just hearing it from each other and then posting it. None of the ones I saw said he wanted out but that “it hasn’t worked out and the team may want to move him.”

[70seven]

Schmidt to Bos for Debrusk + pick

Sign Adam Larsson

Edited July 2, 2021 by 70seven

[IBatch]

9 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

This is 100% bang on! We made this trade well into the FA period, which means it was Days AFTER Tanev and Toffoli signed their sub 4.5m/year contracts. So, if the Canuck GM would've just kept Hughes' reliable D partner we wouldn't be talking about trying to make a move now with Schmidt and his 5.9m cap hit to try and get a RHD to play in our top 4 ideally with Hughes.

 

This is exactly when I felt the current Canuck GM had no idea how to assemble or keep a quality team together. You have a young STUD offensive D man in Hughes who is a LHD, he excelled and loved playing with Mr. Reliable Chris "often injured, but not in my contract year" Tanev. But as the GM you go and say nope, we don't want to even try to make a deal with you after 10 years with the team on top of the great fit you were a great fit with our 21 yr old star offensive D Mr. Hughes.

 

This SCREAMS INCOMPETENCE or whatever the word is and to think the Owners of this team still have faith in him, mind blowing to me as a fan. Sure things can turn around, but sure looks bad now when you let both Tanev and TT walk for deals under 4.5m per and the same contract term left as Nate Schmidt who came in just under a 6m cap hit AND you had to give up a 3rd round pick whereas Tanev and Trade Deadline pickup TT were already on the team and recently acquired.

 

I will always love the Canucks, but the GM and maybe even the head coach have lost my faith in them and how the team is constructed/deployed. But I will give the coaching staff till Christmas to see how the Brad Shaw addition impacts our team in a most positive way I think we are all hoping!

If your going to blast JB at least be accurate.  Tanev was offered a 4 x 2 year deal that worked for the team - he said no thanks and signed with CAL.   JB also offered Markstrom a deal that worked for the team, he also said no thanks.   Tanev was a warrior for us, however like you said, often injured.  Way too early to know how that will work out for CAL, he's getting older too.   Once that was off the table JB located a great opportunity to upgrade our D with a versatile number two in Schmidt.   Reports were Vegas fans loved the guy; as did his teammates, and virtually every stat supported that he was an upgrade on reliable when playing Chris Tanev.   Career wise Schmidt > Tanev so that's an upgrade.   Who knew things would have worked out the way they did.   
 

Now it's possible Schmidt is on the way out.   If we re-coup the third at least, no damage done.   And then we will have to compare whatever happens next with Tanev contract at 32,33,34, how many games he plays and how affective he is. 

 

Last year it's a draw.   Both teams struggled a lot.  CAL was supposed to be a force but just couldn't find the offense.   

 

If Schmidt stays and reverts to career form we win.  Way too early to judge these trades/signings.    Last off season was actually one of JB better ones.   He didn't make things much harder for himself by making any cap dump trades, gambled and picked the right horse for our goalie (does that one count as a win in your books?  Some JB haters only point out their perceived bad moves, and acknowledge the good ones).  

 

TT was a rental.   And wasn't patient enough to stick around and get his offer which was in the works.   So that's that on him.   So many folks dumped on BB last season, trade threads galore for him plus a first for Dumba lol.   And it heated up when "the best right wing ever i've ever watched in a Canucks uniform" played his dozen regular season games (almost all of them losses but that never comes up), got injured and aside from his first game back was mostly a non-factor in the playoffs for us.    Opportunistic and smart, but not really a heavy player and BB backchecked the heck out of him all playoffs long, made some brilliant defensive plays for us during that run - in other words if he wasn't scoring he was doing a good job on the other things.    TT was a luxury we could only afford because BB was down.  

 

Holtby turned out to be a bad signing.   But was also set up for be dangled at the ED.   If he's picked up, which some models suggest, then again no harm done.     Harm done would have been trading Demko for peanuts, losing Podz and Hogs to clear up cap plus future picks, and going with the exact same team that wilted against Vegas, and that included Tanev.   80 million.   Would have been the easy road and the wrong one at the same time.    Imagine the cap issues we'd have this off season too instead of the ones we already have.  That for sure is also on JB timing the cores ascension wrong by one season in the first place.    Just need to stay the course.  

[johngould21]

18 minutes ago, IBatch said:

If your going to blast JB at least be accurate.  Tanev was offered a 4 x 2 year deal that worked for the team - he said no thanks and signed with CAL.   JB also offered Markstrom a deal that worked for the team, he also said no thanks.   Tanev was a warrior for us, however like you said, often injured.  Way too early to know how that will work out for CAL, he's getting older too.   Once that was off the table JB located a great opportunity to upgrade our D with a versatile number two in Schmidt.   Reports were Vegas fans loved the guy; as did his teammates, and virtually every stat supported that he was an upgrade on reliable when playing Chris Tanev.   Career wise Schmidt > Tanev so that's an upgrade.   Who knew things would have worked out the way they did.   
 

Now it's possible Schmidt is on the way out.   If we re-coup the third at least, no damage done.   And then we will have to compare whatever happens next with Tanev contract at 32,33,34, how many games he plays and how affective he is. 

 

Last year it's a draw.   Both teams struggled a lot.  CAL was supposed to be a force but just couldn't find the offense.   

 

If Schmidt stays and reverts to career form we win.  Way too early to judge these trades/signings.    Last off season was actually one of JB better ones.   He didn't make things much harder for himself by making any cap dump trades, gambled and picked the right horse for our goalie (does that one count as a win in your books?  Some JB haters only point out their perceived bad moves, and acknowledge the good ones).  

 

TT was a rental.   And wasn't patient enough to stick around and get his offer which was in the works.   So that's that on him.   So many folks dumped on BB last season, trade threads galore for him plus a first for Dumba lol.   And it heated up when "the best right wing ever i've ever watched in a Canucks uniform" played his dozen regular season games (almost all of them losses but that never comes up), got injured and aside from his first game back was mostly a non-factor in the playoffs for us.    Opportunistic and smart, but not really a heavy player and BB backchecked the heck out of him all playoffs long, made some brilliant defensive plays for us during that run - in other words if he wasn't scoring he was doing a good job on the other things.    TT was a luxury we could only afford because BB was down.  

 

Holtby turned out to be a bad signing.   But was also set up for be dangled at the ED.   If he's picked up, which some models suggest, then again no harm done.     Harm done would have been trading Demko for peanuts, losing Podz and Hogs to clear up cap plus future picks, and going with the exact same team that wilted against Vegas, and that included Tanev.   80 million.   Would have been the easy road and the wrong one at the same time.    Imagine the cap issues we'd have this off season too instead of the ones we already have.  That for sure is also on JB timing the cores ascension wrong by one season in the first place.    Just need to stay the course.  

I want to see his numbers in two years too! The fact that Boeser scored 23, and is much younger, makes me think that Benning isn't that far off in his decision. It would have been nice to have both, but not for that term. 

[Me_]

5 hours ago, 70seven said:

Schmidt to Bos for Debrusk + pick

Sign Adam Larsson

Ew.

Oilers’ seconds.

[aGENT]

6 hours ago, 70seven said:

Schmidt to Bos for Debrusk + pick

Sign Adam Larsson

That pick better be a first... Debrusk has little value.