zimmy Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: I dont think they are suggesting Schmidt wants out. It seems like they are suggesting it would be the team wanting to trade him. 2 different rumors from what I am reading there. The team would be selling low. That would be an example of poor management (unless the trading partner is completely hornswoggled) if this rumour were true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, zimmy said: The team would be selling low. That would be an example of poor management (unless the trading partner is completely hornswoggled) if this rumour were true. I dont disagree. Would I be surprised to see him traded? Not really. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted May 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2021 Sounds like hockey media being hockey media, which means he'll probably be here come September 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 we already need a replacement for edler and maybe another one for hamonic. if schmidt is moved, that is 3 major d-men to replace. it is going to hard to find another edler out there . otherwise our defense doesn't change. can we get better with the same players? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, Dirtman said: I don't see why we would move him after the abysmal season everyone had. Give everyone another year to gel IMO. Not everyone on the team had an abysmal a season. Hogs had a shot at the Calder if much of the team was healthy. If Demko played like Holtby, we would’ve finished probably last in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Me_ said: Canucks open to moving Schmidt What are the thoughts on that? It feels as if his enthusiasm wasn’t overly shared. Yet he rest of the team, to the point that Holtby had to tell him to lower the amplitude… Is he not a fit then? Schmidt + for Jones? The person who wrote the article has no clue what he is talking about. Having said that, I do agree that the coaches need to find a way to use Schmidt better and cater to his strengths. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, smithers joe said: we already need a replacement for edler and maybe another one for hamonic. if schmidt is moved, that is 3 major d-men to replace. it is going to hard to find another edler out there . otherwise our defense doesn't change. can we get better with the same players? I'd hope that Hamonic is being re-signed. Edler, is probably coming back too. Schmidt might be moved, but if he is, I hope it's for a true number one right handed defenseman, which would probably mean more than just Schmidt going the other way. Who knows. A lot of things up in the air this offseason, which could make for a different looking roster this fall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 About Schmidt? Seriously, this guy's about as goofy as that waterbed-salesman! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted May 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2021 Schmidt isn’t the problem. Also calling bs on this 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 People keep talking about the idea of acquiring Seth Jones, but I think Lindholm would be the better choice. Why? 1) Lindholm would be much cheaper to acquire than Jones 2) Lindholm won’t break the bank like Seth Jones. 3) The Canucks likely wouldn’t have to part ways with ANY of Schmidt, Horvat, Boeser, or Podkolzin to acquire Lindholm in the manner that they would for Seth Jones. Lindholm-Schmidt Hughes-Hamonic Juolevi-Myers is a solid defense. Rathbone and a 1st should be able to land Lindholm. Rathbone, a 1st, plus one of the pieces above, is what would land you Jones....along with what would likely be a 9 million dollar cap hit even in a flat cap world starting in 22-23. Patel’s recommendation: 1) Try and draft one of Power or Edvinsson. 2) If both men are off the table, use Rathbone and a 1st to acquire Hampus Lindholm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I mean the blue line needs a big shakeup so I wouldn’t be surprised if his name is discussed. That being said I doubt they have any real sources for this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted May 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Blog is deliberately full of histrionics. " The team finished in last place in the North Division, even behind the rebuilding Ottawa Senators " Yep, last means you finished last. "Of course, things didn’t work out for Schmidt," Why "of course", was it something the writer had predicted? If so a post to confirm would not go amiss. " but couldn’t get it going offensively with just 15 points in 54 games, quite a difference from the 31 points he posted in 59 games with Vegas in 2019-20. Yep, different team, different year, covid, lack of training time, led to different results. "That’s not exactly what Vancouver envisioned when it took on Schmidt’s contract, " Just what did the Canucks envision? Link to them talking about their expectations would be great. "when it took on Schmidt’s contract, " What? Trying to make Schmidt a cap dump now? "which suddenly doesn’t look so good on their payroll as Schmidt still has four more years at $5.95MM." Looks like good value to me. "The Province’s Patrick Johnston writes " Ohhh now I see where this is all coming from. "that the Canucks will likely have to do a major shakeup of their blueline this offseason with only a few players considered key pieces to their puzzle." Wonder if the expansion draft and the ability to only protect 3 D-men has anything to do with this impending shake up? "The belief is the team would prefer to move Schmidt and his contract to free up some cap space, " Whose belief, not that media hack I hope.? " although that could prove challenging, according to The Athletic’s Thomas Drance and Harman Dayal (subscription required). " Cool beans, say somebody said something, but since it is hidden behind a paywall, they don't provide proof of that, just trust him I guess. " only a handful of teams are likely willing to take on four more years of Schmidt " Which ones? "the Canucks could be forced to send a sweetener" or not "if they hope to move the blueliner." I forgot, who said the Canucks wanted to move Schmidt? Ohh right, a few media hacks. It is going to be a long summer for Canuck fans; the bs storm is already gathering. Edited May 31, 2021 by gurn 5 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) I'm not mad at the reporter, just doing their job on a slow Monday with the local team eliminated. Basically it's them throwing their darts in speculation and somewhat for readership, since 1/2 of the team is moveable (either as dead weight, depth guys that need replacing or assets to move for improvement) and even a broken clock is correct 2x per day. With that said, unless there's something being discussed that we don't know about yet, it's probably nothing to see here. Edited May 31, 2021 by Phil_314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I hope its true. It should be, i do t want 6 mill going to a guy thst is less than impressive. This defense needs a new identity and losing both edler and schimdt is the start of that happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 It's probably not the best time to trade Schmidt. As I have said in the past, there's no chance a team would even pay close to what we paid for him, and, arguably, we didn't even pay *that* much. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time this regime sold low on a player. Also, for a team that sucks on defence, not sure how trading is gonna help "be aggressive in making the playoffs" lol. Canucks management 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Thomas Drance is the new Tony Gallagher... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted May 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, gurn said: Blog is deliberately full of histrionics. " The team finished in last place in the North Division, even behind the rebuilding Ottawa Senators " Yep, last means you finished last. "Of course, things didn’t work out for Schmidt," Why "of course", was it something the writer had predicted? If so a post to confirm would not go amiss. " but couldn’t get it going offensively with just 15 points in 54 games, quite a difference from the 31 points he posted in 59 games with Vegas in 2019-20. Yep, different team, different year, covid, lack of training time, led to different results. "That’s not exactly what Vancouver envisioned when it took on Schmidt’s contract, " Just what did the Canucks envision? Link to them talking about their expectations would be great. "when it took on Schmidt’s contract, " What? Trying to make Schmidt a cap dump now? "which suddenly doesn’t look so good on their payroll as Schmidt still has four more years at $5.95MM." Looks like good value to me. "The Province’s Patrick Johnston writes " Ohhh now I see where this is all coming from. "that the Canucks will likely have to do a major shakeup of their blueline this offseason with only a few players considered key pieces to their puzzle." Wonder if the expansion draft and the ability to only protect 3 D-men has anything to do with this impending shake up? "The belief is the team would prefer to move Schmidt and his contract to free up some cap space, " Whose belief, not that media hack I hope.? " although that could prove challenging, according to The Athletic’s Thomas Drance and Harman Dayal (subscription required). " Cool beans, say somebody said something, but since it is hidden behind a paywall, they don't provide proof of that, just trust him I guess. " only a handful of teams are likely willing to take on four more years of Schmidt " Which ones? "the Canucks could be forced to send a sweetener" or not "if they hope to move the blueliner." I forgot, who said the Canucks wanted to move Schmidt? Ohh right, a few media hacks. It is going to be a long summer for Canuck fans; the bs storm is already gathering. I'd pay for your breakdowns of these fluff media pieces, gurn. That much I know. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I hope its true. It should be, i do t want 6 mill going to a guy thst is less than impressive. This defense needs a new identity and losing both edler and schimdt is the start of that happening. What identity would you like to see the defense have? Having an aggressive defense (crease clearing, clean but hard hitting in the corners) that has some solid puck moving offense is what I'd like to see more consistently. Give Hughes and Rathbone some room to work their magic out there. Edited May 31, 2021 by PhillipBlunt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: What identity would you like to see the defense have? Having an aggressive defense (crease clearing, clean but hard hitting in the corners, that has some solid puck moving offense is what I'd like to see more consistently. Give Hughes and Rathbone some room to work their magic out there. Literally this. We need at least one defenseman with a nasty side to him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 As much as I think Schmidt is a good player I think all options should be explored to make a hockey trade to find a true RHD stay at home defenseman to pair with either Hughes or Rathbone. The alternative I see is to keep Schmidt and hire a new defenseman coach and special teams coach who are able to utilize this talent the same way Vegas was able to. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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