JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Kootenay Gold said: Probably the worst idea out there. Last thing the Canucks would want to do is massively overpay for one player and risk a counter offer on Pettersson. No room to fit him in under the cap so basically he team would have to be gutted to make room... A very very bad idea IMO. I don't think that part is accurate, we could afford one guy at that rate. But yes it would mean we'd have to find a lot of bargains at other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Chickenspear said: I just think there's better ways to spend our assets and manage the cap more efficiently. An $11m x 7 contract is quite the commitment, and makes me cringe at what Huggy, Petey, and Boeser's long term deals will look like with the flat cap. Don't want to become Toronto 2.0 here. yeah thats where it gets sticky, there aren't many of these huge deals paying off at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I think when Benning says he'll be aggressive, I think he'll upgrade the top 6 (winger) and move Hoglander down to the 3rd line with possibly a new #3C. I assume Sutter will be resigned to C the 4th line. Miller - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - ?? Motte - ?? - Hoglander Highmore - Sutter - Podkolzin Roussel I'm not sure he sells the farm for a Dman, maybe he drafts one of the Big 4. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I don't think that part is accurate, we could afford one guy at that rate. But yes it would mean we'd have to find a lot of bargains at other positions. In other words lean towards the Toronto or Edmonton models of re--building vs the Colorado model. As much as Makar is a quality player I'm not sure he is enough of a difference maker once you gut the team to make room for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I don't like it, it's a "Leafs move". There's a reason that no team has won the cup with a 10M+ player even yeeaaarsss after having them. I think Price is the first one to advance in many years. Tying too much into one guy is not worth it, no matter how good they are. Exhibit: Connor f**king McDavid. Aggressive is good... knowing when it's time to cut bait and move on from guys. Blowing the bank on big free agents (Restricted or otherwise) is not aggressive imo, it's foolish. The best teams build from within and then add a supplementary piece or two from another team who has gotten out of control (see: Toews trade to COL) for relatively cheap or a UFA who decides they like the look / try for one really cheap go-around (Perry in MTL) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Kootenay Gold said: In other words lean towards the Toronto or Edmonton models of re--building vs the Colorado model. As much as Makar is a quality player I'm not sure he is enough of a difference maker once you gut the team to make room for him year fair point. It makes you wonder tho what Colorado will have to end up paying him? is he more or less valuable than Rantanen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Seems Like a big waste of time if you ask me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, brownky said: I don't like it, it's a "Leafs move". There's a reason that no team has won the cup with a 10M+ player even yeeaaarsss after having them. I think Price is the first one to advance in many years. Tying too much into one guy is not worth it, no matter how good they are. Exhibit: Connor f**king McDavid. Aggressive is good... knowing when it's time to cut bait and move on from guys. Blowing the bank on big free agents (Restricted or otherwise) is not aggressive imo, it's foolish. The best teams build from within and then add a supplementary piece or two from another team who has gotten out of control (see: Toews trade to COL) for relatively cheap or a UFA who decides they like the look / try for one really cheap go-around (Perry in MTL) I think this is a good point. I also like the one about not having late 1sts to use for rentals once our window opens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: Seems Like a big waste of time if you ask me lol this thread or the offer sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: this thread or the offer sheet? The offer sheet obviously lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Just about the most aggressive thing a GM could do is an offer sheet. So who's the biggest offer sheet prize this year? Makar, by a mile. It likely takes something massive like 11 x 7 but if you knew Makar would sign it, would you do it? What are the pro's and con's if Jim tries a move like this? And just to pre-empt one thing, all GMs would throw each other under a bus so goodwill amongst GMs isn't a good argument. Not worth it, I think between Hughes and Rathbone, we have the offensive DMan category covered for a few years. We need some more abrasive D. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: The offer sheet obviously lol as much as I'd like Makar, I think there are a lot of solid points made against it so far. But I sure like the idea of screwing over Sakic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, VegasCanuck said: Not worth it, I think between Hughes and Rathbone, we have the offensive DMan category covered for a few years. We need some more abrasive D. Honestly, we should go after Zadorov's rights from Chicago. They've already said he wasn't a fit there, so we could probably get him fairly cheap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: as much as I'd like Makar, I think there are a lot of solid points made against it so far. But I sure like the idea of screwing over Sakic. Lets offer him 13 mill per and avs would match And totally screw the avs payroll would be funny to watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Chickenspear said: Honestly, we should go after Zadorov's rights from Chicago. They've already said he wasn't a fit there, so we could probably get him fairly cheap. I like this idea too, but Seattle probably takes him from us if we don't protect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: I like this idea too, but Seattle probably takes him from us if we don't protect him. Pay them to take Roussel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 i don't like offer sheets. we'ld be ticked if petey was offer sheeted and we couldn't match. imo it is playing dirty pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Chickenspear said: Pay them to take Roussel? maybe. I'd guess that costs us this years 2nd, and I'd hate that because there are so many good potential RHDs between 30 and 60 this year. A healthy Roussel is an effective pest but he hasn't been the same since that knee rebuild. But if we could get Zadorov for a prospect swap (Lind?) and we can move Rous' salary to Seattle for a 2nd that would bring some size we really need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, smithers joe said: i don't like offer sheets. we'ld be ticked if petey was offer sheeted and we couldn't match. imo it is playing dirty pool. its in the rule book tho Joe, its a tool GMs have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: Honestly, we should go after Zadorov's rights from Chicago. They've already said he wasn't a fit there, so we could probably get him fairly cheap. I like that idea much better than what it would cost and probably do to the team by successfully offer sheeting Makar. Zadorov; while not flashy, gets the job done and has both the size and versatility to play either side if need be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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