DeNiro Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Really liking what I’m seeing potentially develop. If Muller and Shaw are brought in to replace Brown and Baumgartner, this bodes extremely well for the team next season. Green is a good coach who I believe needs better assistants to take the Canucks further. Interesting to note that Shaw came into Columbus in Jones second season which was his breakout season. He would have been a big part of his development. Will be interesting to see if those dots connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Apparently Brad Shaw is the other name associated with the Canucks. It was announced last month that Shaw wouldn’t be returning to Columbus, so he’s available. He’s a 23 year veteran coach, 18 spent in the NHL as either an assistant or associate, and he played around 1000 games as a defenseman, split between the NHL, AHL, and IHL. If hired, Shaw would obviously be the Baumgartner replacement. EDIT: Muller and Shaw also worked on the same coaching staff in St. Louis, from 2014-16, under Hitchcock. I'm all in on this seriously Baumer is not a good D coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Really liking what I’m seeing potentially develop. If Muller and Shaw are brought in to replace Brown and Baumgartner, this bodes extremely well for the team next season. Green is a good coach who I believe needs better assistants to take the Canucks further. Probably the same can be said about JB getting better assistants to continue to evolve as a GM ? Edited June 6, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, PositionOfPower said: I'm all in on this seriously Baumer is not a good D coach Yes. All in baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Probably the same can be said about JB getting better assistants to continue evolve as a GM ? Nah, JB is just trash and there’s no fixing it. (kidding) I think adding better assistants definitely wouldn’t hurt, especially ones that might offer different perspectives or have strengths in areas Benning has weaknesses. I’ve been rough on JB at times (also have been pretty kind, IMO), but I do think he’s improving his performance over time as GM. I still think the front office and management team could definitely use some work, but that doesn’t necessarily mean his removal is the only answer. Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to see Benning deliver a Cup winner as Vancouver GM. I don’t have the same faith as some of you guys, but even when I’m criticizing management, I’m still rooting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Nah, JB is just trash and there’s no fixing it. (kidding) I think adding better assistants definitely wouldn’t hurt, especially ones that might offer different perspectives or have strengths in areas Benning has weaknesses. I’ve been rough on JB at times (also have been pretty kind, IMO), but I do think he’s improving his performance over time as GM. I still think the front office and management team could definitely use some work, but that doesn’t necessarily mean his removal is the only answer. Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to see Benning deliver a Cup winner as Vancouver GM. I don’t have the same faith as some of you guys, but even when I’m criticizing management, I’m still rooting for them. Same; and to many moving parts for one person to take all the blame/credit but that is the nature of the job/business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Interesting to note that Shaw came into Columbus in Jones second season which was his breakout season. He would have been a big part of his development. Will be interesting to see if those dots connect. Shaw also had a hand in helping develop Parayko. I’d rather those dots connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: The twins are just too smart to take those roles this early, if indeed they were offered. Especially after seeing what happened with Linden. But even without that reminder, these are guys who want to earn it, learn the business from the ground up, and make sure that if and when they are handed the keys to running a team, it’s a long term gig, and one where they are going to be successful, as in building a Cup contender/winner, and not just being window dressing or a shield for ownership. yup, I'm excited to see where they are at 3-4 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Apparently Brad Shaw is the other name associated with the Canucks. It was announced last month that Shaw wouldn’t be returning to Columbus, so he’s available. He’s a 23 year veteran coach, 18 spent in the NHL as either an assistant or associate, and he played around 1000 games as a defenseman, split between the NHL, AHL, and IHL. If hired, Shaw would obviously be the Baumgartner replacement. EDIT: Muller and Shaw also worked on the same coaching staff in St. Louis, from 2014-16, under Hitchcock. Hopefully, this is what aggressive offseason meant. Maybe Schmidt, offered some perspective from his POV of the difference in systems ??? Edited June 6, 2021 by ShawnAntoski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 3 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Apparently Brad Shaw is the other name associated with the Canucks. It was announced last month that Shaw wouldn’t be returning to Columbus, so he’s available. He’s a 23 year veteran coach, 18 spent in the NHL as either an assistant or associate, and he played around 1000 games as a defenseman, split between the NHL, AHL, and IHL. If hired, Shaw would obviously be the Baumgartner replacement. EDIT: Muller and Shaw also worked on the same coaching staff in St. Louis, from 2014-16, under Hitchcock. On board with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Shaw also had a hand in helping develop Parayko. I’d rather those dots connect. Also was there for Tarasenko’s rookie season who was in a similar situation to Podkolzin coming over from SKA. Hopefully he could be a part of helping Podz transition to North American life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, ShawnAntoski said: Hopefully, this is what aggressive offseason meant. Maybe Schmidt, offered some perspective from his POV of the difference in systems ??? Hopefully. Maybe Hamonic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 4 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Shaw coached the defence and PK in St. Louis. From 2012-16, the four years when he was associate coach behind Hitchcock, the Blues had the NHL’s 3rd highest winning percentage, 2nd lowest goals against, and the #1 PK%. He also helped develop Dmen like Pietrangelo and Parayko. He would be a huge upgrade over Baumgartner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Hopefully. Maybe Hamonic too. Yeah, perhaps during the exit interviews they were able to offere a different POV ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: He would be a huge upgrade over Baumgartner. Yeah, he was given a legit chance but no dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Yeah, perhaps during the exit interviews they were able to offere a different POV ? I certainly hope so. I couldn’t imagine that any of the defensemen were happy with the shots of goal per game and how easy they made it for teams to enter the zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: He would be a huge upgrade over Baumgartner. Fin would be an upgrade over BumGarden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Fin would be an upgrade over BumGarden. Lol i wasnt going to say it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Nah, JB is just trash and there’s no fixing it. (kidding) I think adding better assistants definitely wouldn’t hurt, especially ones that might offer different perspectives or have strengths in areas Benning has weaknesses. I’ve been rough on JB at times (also have been pretty kind, IMO), but I do think he’s improving his performance over time as GM. I still think the front office and management team could definitely use some work, but that doesn’t necessarily mean his removal is the only answer. Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to see Benning deliver a Cup winner as Vancouver GM. I don’t have the same faith as some of you guys, but even when I’m criticizing management, I’m still rooting for them. I dont care who the GM who delivers a cup to Van as long as it happens before I die lol. The team needs a President in the worst way, especially if they are keeping Benning. And an assistant GM who isnt just basically a clone of JB (focus on drafting themselves, suspect pro scouting ability, sketchy contract valuations, micro managers) would be helpful. The Canucks could do themselves a favor by having someone above Benning that he has to answer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I certainly hope so. I couldn’t imagine that any of the defensemen were happy with the shots of goal per game and how easy they made it for teams to enter the zone. Yeah, Ham & Schmidt would be able to offer those insights that might help management look in a different direction rather than more roster tinkering - perhaps cheaper to higher veteran coaches for mentoring reasons rather than overpaying a veteran player for the same reason(s). Edited June 6, 2021 by ShawnAntoski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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