goblix Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Expansion protected list: Forwards: Boeser / Horvat / Miller / Pettersson / Motte / Pearson / ??? Defensemen: Schmidt / Juolevi / ??? Goalie: Demko So this leaves us with exposed players of: Myers Roussel Virtanen MacEwen Lind Gadjovich Holtby That's pretty much it really.. I'm not listing Beagle or Ferland because of medical reasons and I doubt they claim Virtanen given his legal issues at the moment but I still put him up there... Given this list would there really be any choice for Seattle other than Myers here? I guess I could see them pick a prospect like Lind or Gadjovich but they are unknown quantities that really didn't take advantage of the chance they had this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 JB has a lot of work to do this offseason to fill those protected spots with real NHL players. Motte, Pearson, Schmidt and Jouveli shouldnt be protected. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Myers is 31 years old & has a fairly hefty contract. Schmidt has an additional year left on his deal (similiar cap hit) but is basically a year younger than Myers (Schmidt turns 30 next month). I think they would prefer to take Schmidt as he plays the tougher minutes of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Depends who's available to Seattle. Myers could be an option for them. But most likely they will take one of our younger players. And I'm pretty sure Myers will not be exposed in the ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbluefunk Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 It's a really good question when you look at that list. I will pencil Lind into the last protected spot 9but just in pencil). And so the only viable options for the Kraken are Holtby, Highmore, Gadjovich, MacEwen or Myers (if left unprotected). Of that group, I could see a more likely chance that they'd take Myers than anyone else. He provides value (points, skating, size), has vet leadership, etc etc... Holtby is possible but they will have their pick of many many options plus he only has one year left on his deal. it's all about the balance of what else the Kraken are able to pick up - and if they skew young and prospect-y with a lot of their picks then Myers might make a ton of sense. Now the question is SHOULD we expose him? I'd love to lose that 6 mill in cap but if he isn't taken then what kind of damage could that do in the room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: JB has a lot of work to do this offseason to fill those protected spots with real NHL players. Motte, Pearson, Schmidt and Jouveli shouldnt be protected. I disagree with Pearson and Motte, they are definitely replaceable players but I don't think that necessarily means that they aren't protection worthy. On Schmidt I'm not going to get in that discussion here as well Agreed otherwise JB could really fill up some valuable exposed players but I think they will still cost a pretty penny to acquire so I doubt we will be able to add more than 1 or 2 players in that regard 14 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Myers is 31 years old & has a fairly hefty contract. Schmidt has an additional year left on his deal (similiar cap hit) but is basically a year younger than Myers (Schmidt turns 30 next month). I think they would prefer to take Schmidt as he plays the tougher minutes of the two. Yeah I agree that Schmidt is a better player and better value than Myers but that's why Schmidt is protected and the only option for Seattle is Myers and the others on the list 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Depends who's available to Seattle. Myers could be an option for them. But most likely they will take one of our younger players. And I'm pretty sure Myers will not be exposed in the ED. Yeah I doubt Myers would be exposed as well.. If he was it'd be a pretty forward thinking move for JB though. I do think it'd be rather close for Seattle to pick Myers or a player like Lind / Gadjovich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, goblix said: Expansion protected list: Forwards: Boeser / Horvat / Miller / Pettersson / Motte / Pearson / ??? Defensemen: Schmidt / Juolevi / ??? Goalie: Demko So this leaves us with exposed players of: Myers Roussel Virtanen MacEwen Lind Gadjovich Holtby That's pretty much it really.. I'm not listing Beagle or Ferland because of medical reasons and I doubt they claim Virtanen given his legal issues at the moment but I still put him up there... Given this list would there really be any choice for Seattle other than Myers here? I guess I could see them pick a prospect like Lind or Gadjovich but they are unknown quantities that really didn't take advantage of the chance they had this year. I don't think Lind or Gadget require protection as they didn't meet the requirements for exposure. Could be the biggest reason they sat on the taxi squad for so long. As for Myers, I'm not sure losing Myers would be desired by JB. I would, however be comfortable exposing him as I don't think they'd be interested in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbluefunk Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: I don't think Lind or Gadget require protection as they didn't meet the requirements for exposure. Could be the biggest reason they sat on the taxi squad for so long. As for Myers, I'm not sure losing Myers would be desired by JB. I would, however be comfortable exposing him as I don't think they'd be interested in his contract. Both Lind and Gadj require protection. Both have three years of pro experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, deepbluefunk said: It's a really good question when you look at that list. I will pencil Lind into the last protected spot 9but just in pencil). And so the only viable options for the Kraken are Holtby, Highmore, Gadjovich, MacEwen or Myers (if left unprotected). Of that group, I could see a more likely chance that they'd take Myers than anyone else. He provides value (points, skating, size), has vet leadership, etc etc... Holtby is possible but they will have their pick of many many options plus he only has one year left on his deal. it's all about the balance of what else the Kraken are able to pick up - and if they skew young and prospect-y with a lot of their picks then Myers might make a ton of sense. Now the question is SHOULD we expose him? I'd love to lose that 6 mill in cap but if he isn't taken then what kind of damage could that do in the room? Yeah I doubt in the room it would do anything. But to the organization itself probably some animosity there... or maybe it drives him to be better who knows lol. If anything it may cause damage in the room if he was taken by Seattle and the players did not like that... But as a GM I think you sometimes have to be shrewd as long as it makes the team better. 7 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: I don't think Lind or Gadget require protection as they didn't meet the requirements for exposure. Could be the biggest reason they sat on the taxi squad for so long. As for Myers, I'm not sure losing Myers would be desired by JB. I would, however be comfortable exposing him as I don't think they'd be interested in his contract. They do require protection slots... However they do not meet the exposure requirements of games played though which only means we need to ensure we have met that requirement with another exposed player check this out too fun little ED tool: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle Edited June 5, 2021 by goblix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 By a lot of reports they are not gonna do us any favors cap-wise. Lind/Gadjo/Mac are the supposed targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: By a lot of reports they are not gonna do us any favors cap-wise. Lind/Gadjo/Mac are the supposed targets. Let them take Macewan then. I would wonder if Seattle would take a flyer on Pearson Horvat Petey Boeser Miller Motte Lind Gadj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Depends who's available to Seattle. Myers could be an option for them. But most likely they will take one of our younger players. And I'm pretty sure Myers will not be exposed in the ED. he should be, the team has even said they prefer him on the 3rd pair...why the &^@# would you pay a D 6m to play on your 3rd pair, maybe in a NON cap world sure...we should HOPE Seattle takes Oscar Meyer or LE even if we have to add something. That 6m can be spent so much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Let them take Macewan then. I would wonder if Seattle would take a flyer on Pearson Horvat Petey Boeser Miller Motte Lind Gadj Supposedly there's an agreement in his new contract that Pearson will be protected. We will 90% lose a forward. The d-men and Holtby are the other 10%. I doubt Seattle's core will come from our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Supposedly there's an agreement in his new contract that Pearson will be protected He doesn't have a NMC so we don't have to protect him. He only has a NTC which means we can't trade him. U only need to protect someone if they have a NMC https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tanner-pearson Edited June 5, 2021 by DontMessMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: He doesn't have a NMC so we don't have to protect him. He only has a NTC which means we can't trade him. U only need to protect someone if they have a NMC https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tanner-pearson it's a hand shake deal that we're going to protect him and benning isn't the kind of guy to then expose him regardless of the likelihood of seattle taking him being minimal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, DontMessMe said: He doesn't have a NMC so we don't have to protect him. He only has a NTC which means we can't trade him. U only need to protect someone if they have a NMC https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tanner-pearson Yeah regardless he's not going to get exposed and quite frankly his 3y and 3.25m contract isn't a bad contract for a 28year old top9 forward that will kill penalties and can provide offense it's not a great contract but it's not a bad contract either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Clearly Seattle wants Tortoise power and will go after Holtby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Didn't JB get Bowey for this specific reason? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Let them take Macewan then. I would wonder if Seattle would take a flyer on Pearson Pearson had a down year, yet we gave him a 3 year extension at barely a pay cut...piss poor GM decision imo. Guaranteed you can sign a UFA who will be better for less $$ and term. I hope Seattle takes Oscar Meyer or LE, give something up but clear 6m in cap space. Keep Holtby for 1 more year as it gives Dipietro 1 more full AHL year to keep improving. Can also trade Holtby at deadline to a contender with retention and finish the year with Dipietro as a back up if we are out of the playoff picture again next TDL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienhuggyflow Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 54 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: By a lot of reports they are not gonna do us any favors cap-wise. Lind/Gadjo/Mac are the supposed targets. Curious as to where you heard that. I haven't seen on quote from Francis regarding specific interest. He's only said to other GMs that he is more than willing to take a bad pick but it will be costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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