tas Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 does owen nolan's pto count? hell, did I dream that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Alflives said: How come we didn’t win the Cup with #3OA Erik Gudbranson dominating play for us? You are just asking for a snarky response from Oldnews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: You are just asking for a snarky response from Oldnews. oldnews >>>> alflives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 The real question is will the Leafs ever win a playoff series with a number one “generational talent”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Well in the words of AP: "It's a winning culture," Pietrangelo said of playing in Vegas. "It started in Year 1, and there have been different players added, but the culture stays the same. It starts with ownership and trickles down." we need this more than a top 3 pick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Well so far we haven’t been able to win with top three picks. Dale Tallon 2nd & Jocelyn Guevremont 3rd and here we are. The picks mean very little by themselves, it’s what you do with them that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, R3aL said: Well in the words of AP: "It's a winning culture," Pietrangelo said of playing in Vegas. "It started in Year 1, and there have been different players added, but the culture stays the same. It starts with ownership and trickles down." we need this more than a top 3 pick it's what benning has spent 7 years trying to accomplish. much easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, tas said: it's what benning has spent 7 years trying to accomplish. much easier said than done. I think you miss understood be and misunderstood the quote. it starts from ownership down. Not JB down. and I never said it was easy, just like getting a lottery pick isn’t easy. But it’s most important and hope we will get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Aladeen said: Canucks have a lot of 1st thru 3rd round picks on the team. Thanks............fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, AbrasiveAjax said: What?????? where's the fire Benning, Fire Green gang? that's their answer to everything. Of course if Aqua-Lini dumps Green or Uncle Jim, that would technically qualify as a Pseudo top three pick. Thanks for pointing out the obvious solution to all our problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, khay said: Yes. 2008 Detroit: Brad Stuart? Even 2011 Boston: Seguin was a rookie 4th liner and Horton barely played. 1994 Rangers: Ed Olczyk? Don't think it matters. What matters is having talented players no matter where they are drafted. I would like to agree with you but 43 times out of 45 - it unfortunately did matter. I can't argue much against FACT ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Lol so how would OP explain 2011 SCF for us (too soon?)? We had both a 2nd and 3rd overall pick... then again so did Boston (Seguin and Horton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: Stumbled across this interesting story from SportsNet ( https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can-win-stanley-cup-without-top-3-draft-pick/ ) written just a few years ago "Can you win a Stanley Cup without a Top 3 draft pick?" which stated that if you "Go back 45 years, only two teams have won the Stanley Cup without a top-three draft pick on their roster." Based on this FACT, and given that the Canucks have no 1st thru 3rd first round picks on the team even though we have a few good players and potentially a few others coming up, would you assume that we should patiently wait and hope that all those up & comers are able to lead us to the promised land - OR - do you believe in that theory above and suggest that we sacrifice one or more of our top assets and try and snag a top 1st-3rd player (if available) ? If you look at our drafting history for the last few years, you could easily argue the following: Pettersson should have been the #1 pick in his draft year. Hughes would be a top 3 in a redraft Podkolzin is a top 3 guy in his draft class, if he wasn't committed to the KHL for another 2 seasons. Boeser is likely a top 3 guy in most draft classes, in his, he's probably pretty close to a top 5. Benning isn't perfect, but he's one of the best drafters out of all the GM's in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Convincing John said: I’m not convinced QH or EP are elite NHL players who can carry a team to the cup. I still believe we need our crown jewel. This doesn’t need to come from a top 3 pick but it would definitely increase those chances. I don’t think that player is even in this years draft. The only dark horse in our core that has the potential to be our Savour is Demko. I believe you're correct. Both EP and QH have flaws which can be exploited. Demko needs to mature into a true # but I think he has what it takes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Toni Zamboni said: oldnews >>>> alflives Those aren’t “greater than” symbols, I’m assuming, but a set of arrows signifying some evolutionary process? I’m not taking sides or picking favourites, lol, I just get the giggles imagining oldnews evolving into alflives and his final form being a little, furry, cat-eating alien. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Heretic said: The Sedins say hi! As do Jovo and Gudransson this is really atroucious reporting imo and has no statistical bearing whatsoever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) Nucks need a legit #1 Ekblad, Petro, Hedman type on the backend, with 3 other bigger dmen that can play with intensity, a legit first line right winger and a 3C. Then we can start talking about maybe contending for something. Edited June 11, 2021 by EddieVedder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) It’s not some magical force that will keep them from winning but it’s certainly a factor as to why some teams excel while others, like us, don’t. My only hope is that we found some legitimate steals with Petey and Hughes who are right there in the top 3 of their draft classes… and Podkolzin was ranked up there too. I believe we have top 3 talent without the draft luck. edit: to further discuss, I think a lot of ballyhooed “rebuilds” and just plain old “builds” have the benefit of Mackinnon, Matthews, Hedman etc etc… I do think as management continues to build around Petey, Hughes, Bo, Miller, Brock and Demko we’ll start to align a lot more with the top than the bottom of the league. Edited June 11, 2021 by ilduce39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFsedins Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Vancan2021 said: 2021 NY Islanders say hi. They are a huge threat to win the cup. You do not need a stacked team to succeed. Most times less is more. You need average to a bit above average players, believing and buying into there system. Every player willing to go to war for each other. Can we sign Barry Trotz in a few years please!!! They are a good story and I get your point. But TBH, they are no threat at all to win the cup IMO. No way they get past TB. And if they do, they need to go through VGK. No way that is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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