Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: My proposal 2021 1st Morgan Barron for Schmidt 2021 3rd Morgan Barron is 6’4 put up a point per game in ahl and is ready for show And could slide into our 3rd line for dirt cheap 3rd line of Pearson Barron Podz you then use that cap elsewhere as to me there is no way we can succeed with Schmidt and Myers in our top 4 Wow a 6th rounder. Yeah his numbers look great. Would love that trade getting a 1st also lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: Wow a 6th rounder. Yeah his numbers look great. Would love that trade getting a 1st also lol Yes kid is big and likes throw his weight around him and podz on same line would drive teams nuts with there compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Scottydzik said: Yes kid is big and likes throw his weight around him and podz on same line would drive teams nuts with there compete Having that extra 1st would be enormous. Be more inclined to trade 9OA for a young RHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: Having that extra 1st would be enormous. Be more inclined to trade 9OA for a young RHD Yes you definitely open up a ton of cap as well and very satisfied moving the 9 for a defense and easily take lambos or ceulemans who I think is gonna be a steal at 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Schmidt has a pedigree and despite a crap year he's earned his deal. He's versatile and plays both sides. If we are trading him it better be for a young RHD or C we need. That's all i'm going to say... wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we just kept him for the duration, sure like Myers, he will settle in, and once the post season comes his value will go up. LA sucked as a regular season team. I want to see more reps with this team in the playoffs, next year hopefully, to really get a gauge. We could trade QHs too. Get a monster haul and use it. Imagine this - trade our 9th for Reinhardt (C/RW, 25) and LE. Trade QHs straight across for Ekblad (Quenville had Campbell who was awesome for them same size). In this scenario (and thanks to my brother i'm using it) we'd be playoff bound next year and our D would be stacked. One of Rathbone, Myers, Schmidt or Ekblad would QB out top two PPs, and we'd have enough wingers with Hogs and Podz to create three scoring lines. Rebuild done mike drop see you later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, IBatch said: Schmidt has a pedigree and despite a crap year he's earned his deal. He's versatile and plays both sides. If we are trading him it better be for a young RHD or C we need. That's all i'm going to say... wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we just kept him for the duration, sure like Myers, he will settle in, and once the post season comes his value will go up. LA sucked as a regular season team. I want to see more reps with this team in the playoffs, next year hopefully, to really get a gauge. We could trade QHs too. Get a monster haul and use it. Imagine this - trade our 9th for Reinhardt (C/RW, 25) and LE. Trade QHs straight across for Ekblad (Quenville had Campbell who was awesome for them same size). In this scenario (and thanks to my brother i'm using it) we'd be playoff bound next year and our D would be stacked. One of Rathbone, Myers, Schmidt or Ekblad would QB out top two PPs, and we'd have enough wingers with Hogs and Podz to create three scoring lines. Rebuild done mike drop see you later. That ekblad injury is worrisome. Real bad knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said: Not anywhere near to the same extent Vegas did. They were over the cap and needed to clear space quickly we are tight and need to make space but we are not up against the wall trying to offload players just to be compliant Why did they have to clear cap quickly? Teams can exceed the cap by 10% in the off-season and Schmidt's 6M didn't put them over. Sounded more like they didn't find anyone willing to take the full cap hit other than Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, mll said: Why did they have to clear cap quickly? Teams can exceed the cap by 10% in the off-season and Schmidt's 6M didn't put them over. Wasn't it Petro's cap that was the problem and clearing Schmidt's cap allowed them to aquire him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, mll said: Why did they have to clear cap quickly? Teams can exceed the cap by 10% in the off-season and Schmidt's 6M didn't put them over. Sounded more like they didn't find anyone willing to take the full cap hit other than Vancouver. Schmidt did not want to leave Vegas, he literally just signed there long term with trade protection. Vegas looked at a number of moves to open up cap for Pietrangelo--Fleury was offered up, as was Pacioretty, no team bit. Vegas then signed AP, went above the 10% allowable overage and had 24 hours to be compliant, or the AP contract would be voided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laddie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 What should happen is that they move Schmidt to the left side which is his natural position and go out and find a RH dman to play with him. Having a left side that includes Schmidt, Hughes, Joulevi/Rathbone puts us in a very strong position. Go out get Dumba, Jones, Larsson to play on the first pairing, resign Hamonic and we should be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Schmidt did not want to leave Vegas, he literally just signed there long term with trade protection. Vegas looked at a number of moves to open up cap for Pietrangelo--Fleury was offered up, as was Pacioretty, no team bit. Vegas then signed AP, went above the 10% allowable overage and had 24 hours to be compliant, or the AP contract would be voided. Saw CapFriendly saying they had 6.7M in off-season cap space and Pietrangelo signed for more than that. Well before Pietrangelo even hit market LeBrun was saying that Vegas was waiting in the wings to pounce on him because they wanted to upgrade on Schmidt. Vegas knew that they would need to clear cap. It wasn't a last minute decision to sign Pietrangelo. Surely they talked to teams to find a landing place for Schmidt before those 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scottydzik said: Yes kid is big and likes throw his weight around him and podz on same line would drive teams nuts with there compete Doubt they would want to move Barron when he is expected to bring the grit and heaviness they are missing. Media has been complaining all season that NYR are too soft and owner Dolan concurred. They are looking to add grit - similarly to what Tampa did when they added guys like Coleman, Goodrow, Maroon. Don't think they would have interest in Schmidt either - would be surprising for Drury to ignore Dolan and acquire yet another skilled player while trading away a gritty one. Dolan had that quote about how they have talent but that's not enough to win. Would think that Drury is looking to add players that bring an edge and can play more of a heavy game for the post-season. Edited June 17, 2021 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, mll said: Saw CapFriendly saying they had 6.7M in off-season cap space and Pietrangelo signed for more than that. Well before Pietrangelo even hit market LeBrun was saying that Vegas was waiting in the wings to pounce on him because they wanted to upgrade on Schmidt. Vegas knew that they would need to clear cap. It wasn't a last minute decision to sign Pietrangelo. Surely they talked to teams to find a landing place for Schmidt before those 24 hours. Vegas had only 10 teams they could talk to as per schmidts NMC. Most teams on schmidts list probably had cap issues themselves or were content with what they had already. So yeah maybe they did have talks but it was only 10 teams they could talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, mll said: Doubt they would want to move Barron when he is expected to bring the grit and heaviness they are missing. Media has been complaining all season that NYR are too soft and owner Dolan concurred. They are looking to add grit - similarly to what Tampa did when they added guys like Coleman, Goodrow, Maroon. Don't think they would have interest in Schmidt either - would be surprising for Drury to ignore Dolan and acquire yet another skilled player while trading away a gritty one. Dolan had that quote about how they have talent but that's not enough to win. Would think that Drury is looking to add players that bring an edge and can play more of a heavy game for the post-season. Schmidt is what they need a solid left side d and would be great with Trouba cost isn’t cheap for top 4 d and I think Barron is probably 5th or 6th on there prospect depth seems like a perfect trade for both rangers are looking to take next step and are sorely lacking top 4 with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: Vegas had only 10 teams they could talk to as per schmidts NMC. Most teams on schmidts list probably had cap issues themselves or were content with what they had already. So yeah maybe they did have talks but it was only 10 teams they could talk to. Fair enough but would be the same again now - his 10 team no trade is still in effect and teams are still in cap trouble. The cap is expected flat through 2024/25 per Friedman - the length of his contract. He also turns 30 next month. There were only 31 Ds with a cap hit higher of 6M or more this past season. Not sure there is much of a market unless there is some retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Schmidt is what they need a solid left side d and would be great with Trouba cost isn’t cheap for top 4 d and I think Barron is probably 5th or 6th on there prospect depth seems like a perfect trade for both rangers are looking to take next step and are sorely lacking top 4 with experience Dolan explained that he fired his GM and President because the team was not built the right way. He acknowledges that they have tons of talent but says it's not enough to win. Drury got the job to change the culture and bring in more edge and grit. That's not Schmidt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, mll said: Dolan explained that he fired his GM and President because the team was not built the right way. He acknowledges that they have tons of talent but says it's not enough to win. Drury got the job to change the culture and bring in more edge and grit. That's not Schmidt. Probably should ask gallant if he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, mll said: Fair enough but would be the same again now - his 10 team no trade is still in effect and teams are still in cap trouble. The cap is expected flat through 2024/25 per Friedman - the length of his contract. He also turns 30 next month. There were only 31 Ds with a cap hit higher of 6M or more this past season. Not sure there is much of a market unless there is some retention. All depends. When you get traded when you waive a NMC the team that traded for the player decides if they keep the clause or not. Not sure if Benning did or didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: All depends. When you get traded when you waive a NMC the team that traded for the player decides if they keep the clause or not. Not sure if Benning did or didnt. Not anymore. The clause travels with the player even if he waives - it automatically gets reinstated. It was changed in the CBA approved last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, mll said: Not anymore. The clause travels with the player even if he waives - it automatically gets reinstated. It was changed in the CBA approved last summer. Ahh okay thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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