Alflives Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, FaninMex said: Not rushed. I, unlike you, think that bubble Canucks are a better representation of where the team is at then this past season. I think we need a few finishing details and the sky is wide open. Also, this past season there are likely to be more busts or misses as the scouts and leagues didn't work like usual. If we could get a 3 or 4c and a tough D and Beagle comes back we could be good. However, seeing that Kane is on the market, I would love to get him and that tough D. Imagine a line of Miller - Petty - Kane Podz - Horvat - Hogs You mean Evander Kane? I think he’d be great with Petey. SJS wouldn’t expect much in return either. W3 should be able to dump one year of Loui on them to take on the four years of Evander. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, FaninMex said: Not rushed. I, unlike you, think that bubble Canucks are a better representation of where the team is at then this past season. I think we need a few finishing details and the sky is wide open. Also, this past season there are likely to be more busts or misses as the scouts and leagues didn't work like usual. If we could get a 3 or 4c and a tough D and Beagle comes back we could be good. However, seeing that Kane is on the market, I would love to get him and that tough D. Imagine a line of Miller - Petty - Kane Podz - Horvat - Hogs While I think Kane would be a perfect addition to the top six, and would pound anyone who goes after Pettersson, where did Boeser go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, 204CanucksFan said: Top 10 pick acquired by trade in last 15 years: 2007 9th OA 2008 5th OA 2008 7th OA 2008 9th OA 2010 2nd OA 2011 8th OA 2011 9th OA 2012 8th OA 2013 9th OA 2014 10th OA 2017 7th OA 2019 4th OA 2020 3rd OA Well it has become less common as we've moved futher along in the salary cap era it is still not that weird to see a top 10 pick moved with 13 traded in the last 15 years. If you expand the criteria slightly to the top 15 you end up with 40 picks traded out of 255 picks thats 15.7% of all top 15 picks in the last 15 years. Would remove the ones that were traded before knowing what number the pick would be. Moving a top-10 pick has a different cost than moving a 1st thinking it would be a late pick - eg Ottawa never expected to give up 4th overall for Duchene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: While I think Kane would be a perfect addition to the top six, and would pound anyone who goes after Pettersson, where did Boeser go? Kane would be an intriguing addition but I wonder if his legal and financial problems may restrict his ability to move back to Canada. This isn't a personal jab at Kane just a practical consideration. Questions about Kane playing out his contract have been around since the end of last offseason when news about his bankruptcy filing emerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said: Kane would be an intriguing addition but I wonder if his legal and financial problems may restrict his ability to move back to Canada. This isn't a personal jab at Kane just a practical consideration. Questions about Kane playing out his contract have been around since the end of last offseason when news about his bankruptcy filing emerged. Didn't think about that. Good point. By the way, I can't see how this consideration you speak of is a jab at Kane. He made those decisions. That's on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JamesBlondage said: I shouldn’t be so lazy and just go check myself but does that include Seabrook? I wonder if Toews will be able to play next year? I think so on Seabrook. Who knows with Toews. Edited June 25, 2021 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Convincing John said: He is moving the 9th overall pick. Don’t even look at mock drafts or research players cause we aren’t touching that thing. In the past what? 10-15 years? There hasn’t been too many GMs stupid enough to move a top 10 pick but here we are guys. Let’s get a NHL ready player, ready to sign a big contract. this interview literally made me sick. I'd cry if he traded the pick. Canucks just aren't deep enough. Only 2 ways to improve depth, draft well and draft often or sign UFAs. UFAs come with overspending. A bad trend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Angry Goose said: ? Calm down. He didn't day he's moving the 9oa. He simply laid out the conditions for a trade IF one were to happen. He made no mention of acquiring a younger player coming out of the ELC either. It's no wonder people whine and cry so much when it comes to JB because half the time they can't listen properly to me it sounded like he is not that interested in moving the pick...maybe I am over reading the situation but sounds like he does not expect to be given the player he wants in the trade for this pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Canucks Curse said: to me it sounded like he is not that interested in moving the pick...maybe I am over reading the situation but sounds like he does not expect to be given the player he wants in the trade for this pick. If we do move the pick it will be on the draft floor, because Benning prefers the trade to the prospects left available. I’m kind of hoping Wallstadt falls to nine, and we can swap firsts with a team who really wants him. Then we can add a second too. Maybe we get Ceulemans with that later first, and have two seconds? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 interesting comparison is the 9OA for Cory Schneider trade- Cory was ready to be a no 1 goalie with about 100 nhl games and 10 playoff games under his belt...that was the value for 9OA back then and of course, we selected Bo Horvat- now that was a strong draft year but McTavish seems like a similar player and the hype is now that he is perhaps gone by 9OA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kenny Blankenship Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Convincing John said: He is moving the 9th overall pick. Don’t even look at mock drafts or research players cause we aren’t touching that thing. In the past what? 10-15 years? There hasn’t been too many GMs stupid enough to move a top 10 pick but here we are guys. Let’s get a NHL ready player, ready to sign a big contract. this interview literally made me sick. Mate, if you’re literally ill after listening to a pretty basic hockey interview, you need to take a step back and re-evaluate where you’re putting your energy. It’s just a game lmao. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Canucks Curse said: interesting comparison is the 9OA for Cory Schneider trade- Cory was ready to be a no 1 goalie with about 100 nhl games and 10 playoff games under his belt...that was the value for 9OA back then and of course, we selected Bo Horvat- now that was a strong draft year but McTavish seems like a similar player and the hype is now that he is perhaps gone by 9OA. And in this flat cap era those high first rounders, where the picks are expected to contribute while on their ELCs, are even worth more than back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Just now, Alflives said: And in this flat cap era those high first rounders, where the picks are expected to contribute while on their ELCs, are even worth more than back then. thats a good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Kenny Blankenship said: Mate, if you’re literally ill after listening to a pretty basic hockey interview, you need to take a step back and re-evaluate where you’re putting your energy. It’s just a game lmao. Ya, it’s not like your mother-in-law just showed up on your doorstep all ready for a month stay. Booze ... lots and lots of booze. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: And that's the reason why I'm well-stocked on booze - because the mother-in-law owns the place we live in and is also an occupant of the place we live in... ...and I'm not even the one who has issues with her every waking hour! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Happy wife, happy life, right? When they get the arguments going, nothing tastes better than the drink that knocks me out. Slainte! Slowly fading away into that sweet sweet haze of boozy nectar is a great feeling when the back and forthing is happening. Edited June 25, 2021 by PhillipBlunt 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: And that's the reason why I'm well-stocked on booze - because the mother-in-law owns the place we live in and is also an occupant of the place we live in... ...and I'm not even the one who has issues with her every waking hour! My Mother-in-law is from Toronto, via Calgary. Huge Leafs and Flames fan. Sadly she hates snow and cold and much prefers our winters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, 204CanucksFan said: Top 10 pick acquired by trade in last 15 years: 2007 9th OA 2008 5th OA 2008 7th OA 2008 9th OA 2010 2nd OA 2011 8th OA 2011 9th OA 2012 8th OA 2013 9th OA 2014 10th OA 2017 7th OA 2019 4th OA 2020 3rd OA Well it has become less common as we've moved futher along in the salary cap era it is still not that weird to see a top 10 pick moved with 13 traded in the last 15 years. If you expand the criteria slightly to the top 15 you end up with 40 picks traded out of 255 picks thats 15.7% of all top 15 picks in the last 15 years. Please, 97.62% didn’t know they were trading away a top 10 pick. But go ahead and unfold the perfect blanket for the rushing rebuild picnic. It’s all about setting the tone improving the optics. If you know you have a 9th overall pick, you don’t trade it. Why? Because your team sucks a$$$ and when your team sucks you need to build a core through the draft. When your team is awesome, you can trade a 1st to make immediate improvements. I honestly don’t even care. The bigger he screws up, the sooner his is gone, and the sooner we can start over. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, FaninMex said: Not rushed. I, unlike you, think that bubble Canucks are a better representation of where the team is at then this past season. I think we need a few finishing details and the sky is wide open. Also, this past season there are likely to be more busts or misses as the scouts and leagues didn't work like usual. If we could get a 3 or 4c and a tough D and Beagle comes back we could be good. However, seeing that Kane is on the market, I would love to get him and that tough D. Imagine a line of Miller - Petty - Kane Podz - Horvat - Hogs We do not want Kane. Ever! The bubble Canucks were not real. We do not have the cap space to spend on big UFA tickets . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 204CanucksFan Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Convincing John said: Please, 97.62% didn’t know they were trading away a top 10 pick. But go ahead and unfold the perfect blanket for the rushing rebuild picnic. It’s all about setting the tone improving the optics. If you know you have a 9th overall pick, you don’t trade it. Why? Because your team sucks a$$$ and when your team sucks you need to build a core through the draft. When your team is awesome, you can trade a 1st to make immediate improvements. I honestly don’t even care. The bigger he screws up, the sooner his is gone, and the sooner we can start over. Actually 9 of those picks were traded within a week of the draft or at the draft. And what's the problem if we trade it for a Erik Cernak or Cal Foote. Both are young, on cheap contracts and would only help add to our depth at a position of need. But hey don't let facts get in the way of a good hate 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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