PhillipBlunt Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: Yeah, like Schenn when he was here. You rough up Hughes, Petey, anyone, he was right there. To me, that's how I learned to play hockey, and that's what any team needs. I appreciated Schenn when he was here. Hamonic has stood up for Hughes, as has Horvat. Would prefer to have some bigger players to bring the heat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I think Jim should've worded as "Need better players who can defend"...at least I hope that is what he meant That’s hilarious. Lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: Yeah, like Schenn when he was here. You rough up Hughes, Petey, anyone, he was right there. To me, that's how I learned to play hockey, and that's what any team needs. Montreal's showing the league how valuable that kind of defenseman can be. Personally I love those guys and hope we move towards that style. You absolutely need a couple of big guys willing to clear the crease like Myers, although I wish he was meaner. Can't coach size. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, The.Burrowers said: We have needed a stud defenseman for a long time. We should take advantage of the expansion draft and acquire some talent from a team that will be forced to expose (ie Minny and Dumba....) Tyler Myers does not need protecting.... Dumba is not the D we're looking for. Insert Obi Wan meme here. Using the ED as a pressure point, if we can trade for a Mayfield, Foote, Jensen etc... Great. Otherwise (or as well) we have guys like Hamonic, Larsson, Savard, Hakanpaa, Oleksiak or Ceci we can target as UFA's. Then next year, when we have cap opening up, we can target big fish like Parayko, Risto, Lindholm etc. It's not all going to get fixed this summer. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 47 minutes ago, BPA said: So let's talk about how JB likes Miller at C and wants 3 good scoring lines. So he's wanting at least one top 6/9 winger to fill the void. What about a trade with CHI? Alexander Nylander + Zadorov for 1st 2021 + OJ + Lind (too much???). Massive overpayment by the Canucks, Nylander was injured all season and Zadorov is likely exposed or enticed to be taken in the expansion draft. If Chicago wants to move Connor Murphy on D I would have interest but that is doubtful. Maybe you can buy low on Strome, not sure if he would do well as a #3C or if he is better off being a winger but he might be had for cheap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, BarnBurner said: Yeah, and I want to give Woo a chance. He plays aggressive, can contribute to the offense, hit and stand up for himself, and teammates. Couldn’t agree more, I would hate to see him traded away unless it was for a slightly older RD. I’m not sure what he’ll turn out to be but he might well be a younger version of some of the names that pop up as trade targets. I want to see how Shaw develops these kind of prospects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laddie Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Defensemen that fit that criteria and are either a UFA or a RFA (trade possibilities) Right Handed - UFA David Savard - 30, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,250,000 Adam Larsson - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,166,666 Travis Hamonic - 31, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $1,250,000 Left Handed - UFA Ryan Murray - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,600,000 Jamie Oleksiak - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $2,137,500 Alex Edler - 35, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $6,000,000 RFA's Vince Dunn - 24 Nikita Zadorov - 26 Considering we probably need two defensemen, which two would be your pick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 He said that they would need a really good young player who is playing in the NHL to move the 9th. Hopefully young means 21/22. Most teams won't need to move players like that because they won't need to be protected. Use the pick. The biggest need for this team is defensive players. Bottom six and on defense. You don't move a 9th overall pick for a defensive D man. Tampa is playing Luke Schenn. We have enough mobility on our backend. We need big stay at home help back there. Every year the UFA market has some decent role players that can be scored for the bottom six. We shall soon know what they are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, aGENT said: Dumba is not the D we're looking for. Insert Obi Wan meme here. Using the ED as a pressure point, if we can trade for a Mayfield, Foote, Jensen etc... Great. Otherwise (or as well) we have guys like Hamonic, Larsson, Savard, Hakanpaa, Oleksiak or Ceci we can target as UFA's. Then next year, when we have cap opening up, we can target big fish like Parayko, Risto, Lindholm etc. It's not all going to get fixed this summer. "This is not the D you are looking for" Edited June 24, 2021 by appleboy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, laddie said: Defensemen that fit that criteria and are either a UFA or a RFA (trade possibilities) Right Handed - UFA David Savard - 30, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,250,000 Adam Larsson - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,166,666 Travis Hamonic - 31, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $1,250,000 Left Handed - UFA Ryan Murray - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $4,600,000 Jamie Oleksiak - 28, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $2,137,500 Alex Edler - 35, 2020/2021 Cap Hit $6,000,000 RFA's Vince Dunn - 24 Nikita Zadorov - 26 Considering we probably need two defensemen, which two would be your pick? RHD: Larsson or the cheaper option likely being Hamonic LHD: Oleksiak, walk from Edler unless its 1yr 1m, no more handout retirement big $ contracts please!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Couldn’t agree more, I would hate to see him traded away unless it was for a slightly older RD. I’m not sure what he’ll turn out to be but he might well be a younger version of some of the names that pop up as trade targets. I want to see how Shaw develops these kind of prospects. You are bang on. Some of these posters are willing to trade the farm before we even have a chance to see what is possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, appleboy said: He said that they would need a really good young player who is playing in the NHL to move the 9th. Hopefully young means 21/22. Most teams won't need to move players like that because they won't need to be protected. Use the pick. The biggest need for this team is defensive players. Bottom six and on defense. You don't move a 9th overall pick for a defensive D man. Tampa is playing Luke Schenn. We have enough mobility on our backend. We need big stay at home help back there. Every year the UFA market has some decent role players that can be scored for the bottom six. We shall soon know what they are thinking. I'd be fine with an appropriately talented 23 year old. That said, I think we likely keep the pick. I'd even be ok possibly trading up to 6 if Clarke (or Hughes) is still there. I'd move 9th OA for a more defensively oriented Cernak (though it's unlikely they move him IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Luke Schenn Gudbranson Mil each. One year deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, appleboy said: Luke Schenn Gudbranson Mil each. One year deals. I’m thinking it will be players like Savard (familiarity with Shaw) and Oleksiak. Fits the bigger and stronger aspect. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I’m thinking it will be players like Savard (familiarity with Shaw) and Oleksiak. Fits the bigger and stronger aspect. Rather have that than edler and hamonic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted June 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Rather have that than edler and hamonic Yep. Hamonic was a good signing because he was cheap and on a short term contract. If it’s gonna cost us term and like 2.5-3 mil now it’s time to move on. There will be more players of Hamonic caliber available for cheaper. Edler just doesn’t fit the style they wanna play now. He doesn’t have the mobility anymore. I get that they wanna be loyal but sometimes you have to make those tough decisions to get stronger. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 We could see something where a lower pick is moved in a deal with a team because of the ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, appleboy said: We could see something where a lower pick is moved in a deal with a team because of the ED. Yea no reason we can’t swing another 3rd round pick for a decent player. Probably the best value in those players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: He did mention Myers right after, as another guy who can skate the puck out. I dont think he classifies Myers in the same category as Hughes, Schmidt, and Rathbone though. My mistake. I haven't been able to listen to the actual interview. Would have been surprised if the Canucks didn't protect Myers. Would have thought that was the main reason for acquiring Bowey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, appleboy said: He said that they would need a really good young player who is playing in the NHL to move the 9th. Hopefully young means 21/22. Most teams won't need to move players like that because they won't need to be protected. Use the pick. The biggest need for this team is defensive players. Bottom six and on defense. You don't move a 9th overall pick for a defensive D man. Tampa is playing Luke Schenn. We have enough mobility on our backend. We need big stay at home help back there. Every year the UFA market has some decent role players that can be scored for the bottom six. We shall soon know what they are thinking. You absolutely move the 9th overall for a strong defensive defenseman who's still young, and that's coming from a guy who's opposed to moving the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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