Popular Post 4petesake Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: I must admit I get a kind of sick pleasure out of watching the Leafs lose. And I think it’s because I know the loss makes Leaf fans suffer. I’m a very sick Alf, and feel shame. LeafFanDan raising the Maple Leaf 2021 Championship banner. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rick Blight Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 I am sure you have not been around long enough to see the Leafs win their last Cup but did you know.... Leafs finished 3rd in a 6 team league Leafs had 19 less points than Chicago during the regular season Leafs allowed 7 more goals than they scored during the regular season. Chicago scored 94 more than they allowed. So I am assuming you don't think the Leafs were a good team in 1967 and were very undeserving of winning a cup that season. Perhaps their win should be stricken from the records? 3 8 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes, there are players who simply look at their individual statistics so they can get their individual awards and get paid millions of dollars. There is nothing wrong with a player looking after themselves. However, like every sport, hockey is a team game and the playoffs are really a new season. There are players who play to win it all and those are the ones you want to acquire. Sometimes you don't know who those players are, so making the playoffs each year is key to find out which players you can go to battle with and win the wars. Toronto is a perfect example of a team with some star players who play well during the regular season but taper off when the wars start in the playoffs. Marner specifically looks to be that type of player. Leafs should trade Marner, even if it means a less than stellar return too. 11 million in cap space could add some very important depth, which would help them in the playoffs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Remember the movie Elf? Great Christmas movie. Remember when he congratulated the coffee shop that had "Worlds Best Coffee" in the window? This thread reminds me of that. Your overthinking it. Its a tournament and the winner hoists the cup. It's that simple. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, LeafsFanDan said: The thing is a team can pull together over 20 games and just play all in defence and win the cup, that doesn't make them "the best". Its much harder to do it consistently and over a 82 game schedule. MONTREAL is easily the weakest team of the final 8 yet somehow they managed to win, does that make them lucky? Yes, good? No, it shows that scrub teams can work really hard over a course of a few weeks to grind the truly elite teams down. No respect from me to Montreal, and in case you wondering neither do 90% of the true hockey analyst, experts and commentators give Montreal any respect. Go figure why that is, think about it don't take it from me take it from the experts making 200k a year, I'd listen to them over a casual fan, you should too. That is entirely incorrectly. I know it's hard for leafs fans to understand, but just because leafs fans and the Toronto based media say something, doesn't make it fact. Your post reads like a massive whiner. Montreal was the better team, you lost. It happens to every team except one every year. Take a shot and get over it, Dan. 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rick Blight Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 It's been 54 years since the Leafs last won the Cup. It has been 59 years since the Leafs last had the best regular season record. Seems to me, if I were a Leafs fan, I would be very careful talking about the regular season being a better gauge of a good hockey team. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-DLC- Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, LeafsFanDan said: This is an opinion thread, please don't break forum rules or bash OP if you happen to disagree** 2021 SCP has shown on full display that teams who may do well under the playoff type games may not be great regular season teams, and that needs to be addressed. Organizations, fans and players make the most of their hockey time during the 82 games and 6 months of hockey during the regular season. All the true battles, the point records, the endless games and drama happens during this time. The teams are ranked during the season based on their composition, roaster, type of game style and performance. Winning unlike most people want you to believe isn't everything. Many people would agree that win or lose as long as their team plays an entertaining style of hockey thats what matters. Losing 6 to 7 but watching your team score 6 goals is incredible. Getting your money worth at a game isn't about winning its about the game style, the players and the attitude. Playoffs is a mind set that tricks people into thinking winning is all that matters, and many teams play a horrible boring defensive, unsatisfying brand of hockey (New Jersey 90s, Dallas etc) overacheiving medicore teams doing well in a limited 20 game playoff spam. Enter Montreal 2021, a scub team no one selected who is a true expert or analyst in NHL. You know why? Because it's not a good team, at one point even Canucks were thinking of catching them. Just because Montreal has managed to pull wins in a playoff bubble, playing endless defence and grinding teams down doesn't make them a good team. I am sorry, Playoffs need to have its own bracket because regular season is where teams truly shine where players get paid and where most of the money is made. Its crazy to see how many people are buying into the SCP as a decisive factor for determining what team is good and what isn't. I can't believe you don't understand that being the best team means you advance through to the end and are the last team standing. That's how it's determined. You can be the best all season long but if you fail under pressure and when it counts, you're not the best. This is how the league is structured...maybe file a complaint there if you're not satisfied with how "the best" is determined. Our team won the President's Cup...means nothing in the end. They were the best all year except they didn't manage to accomplish the feat of raising the cup. When people look to see who was the "best" they will always refer to the cup winner. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 So all those Cups won from 1967 and prior on the original six mean nothing. Gotcha. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 But you can still hold a parade if it helps provide closure. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 *don't violate board rules and rip on dan for his opinion* 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 I blame ribbon culture. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: I blame ribbon culture. I blame people for their fingers are typing before the train is leaving the station. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, luckylager said: *don't violate board rules and rip on dan for his opinion* Thank f**k for gifs, amirite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Man, I wish we sucked as bad as the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said: But you can still hold a parade if it helps provide closure. I believe this topic deserves a pin. There are so many layers to unpack, I'm not sure it can be done in one night, but truly deserves at least a decade of reflection. It should be locked, but pinned, and we can revisit it in 10 years. A time capsule of sorts. Dan may just be too far ahead of his time for the masses. Edited June 26, 2021 by luckylager 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said: But you can still hold a parade if it helps provide closure. Music for the Leaf’s parade: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Brad Marchand said: If the Stanley Cup was awared to the best regular season team, the best teams would try harder during the regular season, it's that simple. Most of the important trophies available to be won in team sports are awared to the winner of playoff tournaments. If your team isn't good enough to win even a single round of that tournament, your team isn't that good, plain and simple. Both in finals hockey and finals footy-AFL- the level of play steps up. Everything is faster,tackles-hits are harder,less time to pass the ball/puck. It's a whole different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The goal of every team in the NHL is to win the Stanley Cup. The goal is not to win the President's Trophy. There are teams that are not the best team during the regular season that end up winning the Cup. It has happened quite a bit. Look at the Canucks in 1982 and 1994. We were not the best team in the NHL regular season, not even close, but we went to the Cup finals both years and almost won it in 1994. In 2011 we were the best team in the NHL regular season, however we did not win the Cup. Your analysis in this thread is simply to discredit Montreal's achievements this year and to state that Toronto is a better team. Theoretically Toronto was a better team during the regular season. However, just like the last 54 years, they were not able to win the Stanley Cup. If you were to ask every player, every coach, every GM and every owner of every team they will tell you that their goal is to win the Stanley Cup. And it is the same with the fans of every team. dang is that considered a double fail considering they didnt even get the president trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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