D-Money Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: He’s actually not bad in a limited bottom pairing role now and experience is always valuable. Chicago expecting not to take money back for him is unreasonable though. I don’t get this take at all. Keith averaged more TOI than any Canucks player, and Chicago finished above Vancouver. He’s far from his peak, but he’d still be at least #3 on the Canucks blueline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 6 es assists.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 9 hours ago, D-Money said: I don’t get this take at all. Keith averaged more TOI than any Canucks player, and Chicago finished above Vancouver. He’s far from his peak, but he’d still be at least #3 on the Canucks blueline. He’d be #2 on the Oilers D, he would be a 3/4 in Van depending on how they would want to mix it up. Thankfully we’re not in the mix as he is just not a fit on our roster financially or on the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: He’d be #2 on the Oilers D, he would be a 3/4 in Van depending on how they would want to mix it up. Thankfully we’re not in the mix as he is just not a fit on our roster financially or on the ice. I actually think he’d fit quite well. Think of something like this: To VAN: Keith + Subban To CHI: Holtby + Roussel + Juolevi The concern for Vancouver is cap this season. The concern for Chicago is cap in 2022-23. This would address both needs. Also saves Vancouver ownership a ton of cash, since Holtby is paid $5.7M in salary this year. As for on the ice, Keith is a decent upgrade on Edler. And really, I think the defence as a whole could use a fresh start. There’s a new associate coach, and having a new “leader” for the D-corps who knows what it takes to win could be a nice touch. Edited July 6, 2021 by D-Money 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted July 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, D-Money said: I actually think he’d fit quite well. Think of something like this: To VAN: Keith + Subban To CHI: Holtby + Roussel + Juolevi The concern for Vancouver is cap this season. The concern for Chicago is cap in 2022-23. This would address both needs. Also saves Vancouver ownership a ton of cash, since Holtby is paid $5.7M in salary this year. As for on the ice, Keith is a decent upgrade on Edler. And really, I think the defence as a whole could use a fresh start. There’s a new associate coach, and having a new “leader” for the D-corps who knows what it takes to win could be a nice touch. Bringing in a guy with serious character issues to be a "leader" had been tried before. It didn't work out well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Blackhawks cap hell finally catching up with them. Oh yeah sure Vancouver would love to help you out, because he is from Richmond. Pass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, King Heffy said: Bringing in a guy with serious character issues to be a "leader" had been tried before. It didn't work out well. Keith is well liked by teammates and has no serious character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, King Heffy said: Bringing in a guy with serious character issues to be a "leader" had been tried before. It didn't work out well. I am not familiar with his character issues. What are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: I am not familiar with his character issues. What are they? Google the issues with female reporters, his chirping after a player is concussed, and his gutless cheap shot on Daniel. He'd be the second coming of Messier here. Not welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted July 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 4 goals 11 assists (5 of those on the powerplay - with 2:26/game pp ice time - terrible production 5on5 and on the powerplay -13 52.5% offensive zone starts 45.2% corsi 63 giveaways, 28 takeaways (-35). that many giveaways, while producing 6 even strength assists.... 2.9 on ice goals for per 60, 3.6 against - worst of Blackhawk regulars .900 on ice sv%. the one positive is that he was/remains a principal penalty killer - but a whole lot of meh - and decline. Last three seasons even strength assists... 30 15 6. How much of that can be related to playing with Mitchell, Murphy and Boqvist? Don't care really. 5.54 million x 2 remaining on this 38 year old. hard 'pass'. yeah - when Chicago says they're not looking to take back salary - and are wanting assets for him = that means they aren't trying particularly hard to accommodate him - and really, why should they? why should any team? less than zero interest. Edited July 7, 2021 by oldnews 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Google the issues with female reporters, his chirping after a player is concussed, and his gutless cheap shot on Daniel. He'd be the second coming of Messier here. Not welcome. I didn't know about the female reporter that's low. Wakey wakey Backes and his elbow is no worse than say hi to Kelly for me or other cheap shots over the years....Torres on Seabrook. Edited July 7, 2021 by Chris12345 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Keith is well liked by teammates and has no serious character issues. Daniel can rub some elbow cream on for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Kypreos was claiming that its Keith to the Oilers and Larsson to Vancouver. Strange move for the Oilers unless they are resigned to not being able to resign Larsson. Don't hate us getting him tho, the right kinda player to pair with Hughes / Rathbone on a pair for sure. His form this year was pretty good, tho not without his struggles in Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: Kypreos was claiming that its Keith to the Oilers and Larsson to Vancouver. Strange move for the Oilers unless they are resigned to not being able to resign Larsson. Don't hate us getting him tho, the right kinda player to pair with Hughes / Rathbone on a pair for sure. His form this year was pretty good, tho not without his struggles in Edmonton. How would we be in talks with him already? It’s not even free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: How would we be in talks with him already? It’s not even free agency. No clue, Kyper brings the crazy alright - he has broke a few moves in the past tho. I imagine the 'source' is actually that Vancouver intends to aggressively pursue Larsson and that the EDM and CHI are talking the Keith trade, making the former more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Duncan Keith deal to be had with Chicago retaining 30-to-50%, says NHL insider CHI Holtby Something VAN Keith (full salary) Zadorov Deal Schmidt out. Edited July 8, 2021 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Me_ said: Duncan Keith deal to be had with Chicago retaining 30-to-50%, says NHL insider CHI Holtby Something VAN Keith (full salary) Zadorov Deal Schmidt out. I would rather keep Schmidt and not bother with Keith at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Eddie said: Kypreos was claiming that its Keith to the Oilers and Larsson to Vancouver. Strange move for the Oilers unless they are resigned to not being able to resign Larsson. Don't hate us getting him tho, the right kinda player to pair with Hughes / Rathbone on a pair for sure. His form this year was pretty good, tho not without his struggles in Edmonton. For once, I hope Kypreos is right Perhaps he means we'd be trading for his rights... Shouldn't be more than a mid/late pick (or similar) at this point. Edited July 8, 2021 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: For once, I hope Kypreos is right Cone to think of it... I wonder if, given the Schmidt rumors... Schmidt +/- to EDM for the rights to Larsson and 20 OA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, aGENT said: Cone to think of it... I wonder if, given the Schmidt rumors... Schmidt +/- to EDM for the rights to Larsson and 20 OA... huh. Thats interesting, but that doesn't feel like a Holland move to me, he's a pretty conservative dude. I'd be pretty happy about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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