Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Vancouver trades Juolevi Jett Woo 2022 2nd round pick Boston trades Jeremy Lauzon Boston does this to get some assets before losing Lauzon for nothing Vancouver does this to add a young top 4 defenseman still on the last year of his rookie deal that is only 24 and can play RD or LD and is a shutdown defenseman that likes to hit and averaged just under 19 minutes a game last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 Massive overpayment 3 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Wow thats a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, King Heffy said: Massive overpayment how is that? Boston will want a 2nd, prospect and a player that can play but also be used in the expansion draft and Woo is an unknown right now and Lauzon plays big minutes, outplayed Carlo this past season and is on a ELC that's why it's going to cost that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 everyone do your own research on Lauzon and his numbers https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lauzoje01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: how is that? Boston will want a 2nd, prospect and a player that can play but also be used in the expansion draft and Woo is an unknown right now and Lauzon plays big minutes, outplayed Carlo this past season and is on a ELC that's why it's going to cost that much Just because that's what they want doesn't mean we should be willing to give it up. That's a lot of future to give up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Just because that's what they want doesn't mean we should be willing to give it up. That's a lot of future to give up. Vancouver isn't going to be the only team kicking the tires on Lauzon you know Juolevi is at best a #6 or #7 that has to play sheltered minutes and has been leaped frog by Rathbone Woo had a good last season but he wasn't playing against the AHL's best because most of the AHL's best players were on NHL taxi squads 2nd round pick is the part I am the most hesitant to part with but if the Canucks want a top 4 RD/LD that can play 20 minutes a game and lead Boston defence in hits and 2nd in block shots all on a ELC then this is how a team like the Canucks gets better by using their assets to get a better asset at a 800k cap hit Edited July 2, 2021 by IjustNEEDaTROYgamble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: everyone do your own research on Lauzon and his numbers https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lauzoje01.html I’m going to assume that these numbers will form the basis of a man crush. I’m just not sure the B’s are going to be able to extract the haul you are suggesting nor am I super pumped about sending out two potential 5/6/7 D who are relatively cost controlled for the next few years. The player himself holds some intrigue. The deal you suggest is too rich in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Didn't he struggle a bit in this year's playoffs? I remember seeing him being kind of a whipping boy for B's fans this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: Didn't he struggle a bit in this year's playoffs? I remember seeing him being kind of a whipping boy for B's fans this year he's 24 and this was his 2nd playoffs in the NHL and 1st playing over 15 minutes a game but he outplayed Carlo this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, zimmy said: I’m going to assume that these numbers will form the basis of a man crush. I’m just not sure the B’s are going to be able to extract the haul you are suggesting nor am I super pumped about sending out two potential 5/6/7 D who are relatively cost controlled for the next few years. The player himself holds some intrigue. The deal you suggest is too rich in my opinion. these numbers prove what I am posting and show Lauzon is a younger Tanev that could play with Hughes for the next 5 years. Teams don't just give you young top 4 defenseman on ELC's for nothing and giving up Woo and Juolevi is not very much specially since one can't crack the lineup and the other has had 2 bad years in Jr before this past year in Utica. Just because Woo is the Canucks #1 defensive prospect in Utica doesn't mean he is the next Rathbone or Hughes. A good GM will use his assets to get better assets and not let them depreciate. I bet most people on here have never heard of Lauzon which is the people crying "overpayment" when in capfriendly everyone has posted it's as even as a deal both teams are going to get. https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/472718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: how is that? Boston will want a 2nd, prospect and a player that can play but also be used in the expansion draft and Woo is an unknown right now and Lauzon plays big minutes, outplayed Carlo this past season and is on a ELC that's why it's going to cost that much It doesn't matter what Boston wants, Seattle may just get him for free. This isn't going to be an ordinary trade reflective of his value either -- it needs to be Vancouver weaponizing a lower draft pick to get someone they can protect (hence partly why Nashville sold so low on Arvidsson -- you don't get a top-6 player normally for a 2nd and 4th). There's no way Boston only protects 4 forwards to protect Lauzon as an extra D, so McAvoy/ Carlo/ Grzelcyk are the 3 Boston protects on the back end. With that, Boston has no leverage - either they get lowballed to recoup some value or risk him getting picked for nothing. That's how it's going to be for all teams around the league, so don't expect much more than 3rd or 4th round picks in the bidding "war" for him. Edited July 2, 2021 by Phil_314 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: It doesn't matter what Boston wants, Seattle may just get him for free. This isn't going to be an ordinary trade reflective of his value either -- it needs to be Vancouver weaponizing a lower draft pick to get someone they can protect (hence partly why Nashville sold so low on Arvidsson). There's no way Boston only protects 4 forwards to protect Lauzon as an extra D, so McAvoy/ Carlo/ Grzelcyk are the 3 Boston protects on the back end. With that, Boston has no leverage - either they get lowballed to recoup some value or risk him getting picked for nothing. That's how it's going to be for all teams around the league, so don't expect much more than 3rd or 4th round picks in the bidding "war" for him. watch people like Friedman are going to be bringing up Lauzon that there is numerous teams kicking the tires like the Oilers, Senators and any other team with a $&!#ty defense and Boston could trade a pick to Seattle for them to take DeBrusk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: these numbers prove what I am posting and show Lauzon is a younger Tanev that could play with Hughes for the next 5 years. Teams don't just give you young top 4 defenseman on ELC's for nothing and giving up Woo and Juolevi is not very much specially since one can't crack the lineup and the other has had 2 bad years in Jr before this past year in Utica. Just because Woo is the Canucks #1 defensive prospect in Utica doesn't mean he is the next Rathbone or Hughes. A good GM will use his assets to get better assets and not let them depreciate. I bet most people on here have never heard of Lauzon which is the people crying "overpayment" when in capfriendly everyone has posted it's as even as a deal both teams are going to get. https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/472718 You’d better hope the B’s management doesn’t read your reviews of OJ and Jett. Not ringing endorsements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, zimmy said: You’d better hope the B’s management doesn’t read your reviews of OJ and Jett. Not ringing endorsements. LoL this is the same front office that traded Dougie Hamilton and Tyler Seguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: LoL this is the same front office that traded Dougie Hamilton and Tyler Seguin Occasional incompetence can not be predicted I’m afraid. (and they’re not the same front offices either) Edited July 2, 2021 by zimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, zimmy said: Occasional incompetence can not be predicted I’m afraid. (and they’re not the same front offices either) I'm pretty sure Neely and Sweeney were a part of those front offices but in lower capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: I'm pretty sure Neely and Sweeney were a part of those front offices but in lower capacity Sweeney was just hired by the bruins and neely said they werent ready for the draft. Have noone to blame but themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Sweeney was just hired by the bruins and neely said they werent ready for the draft. Have noone to blame but themselves Note that this was the first draft they had no input from Benning whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Really hate this proposal tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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