J-Dizzle Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Weak argument that helps them fit their false narrative. Im sure Benning will use that in his contract negotiations… Like “Brock, I know you scored 30 goals this season, but we feel you’re one dimensional so we’re only gonna offer you 5 million. Sound good?” Yeah that combined with, ‘a poster on our website’s forum said your .83 points a game and .39 goals a game aren’t top line numbers on a contending team so we think that’s a fair number.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Just because he scored for us, doesnt make him our best player. Boeser is extremely 1 dimensional. If you start over paying guys that arent true top line players on contending teams then your building a pretender. No way is Boeser worth close to 7. I thought Boeser played hard, was consistent each game, was good defensively, and scored for us. Out of curiosity, which players did you feel were better for us over the course of last year? I truely believe Boeser was our most consistent player. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I know this is CDC, yet I am still surprised at just how many people would trade 9th over all, plus Schmidt plus another player for 1 year of Seth Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, gurn said: I know this is CDC, yet I am still surprised at just how many people would trade 9th over all, plus Schmidt plus another player for 1 year of Seth Jones. I know this is is CDC, yet i am still surprised at how many people talk about seth jones in a Tyler burtuzzi thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, shayster007 said: I thought Boeser played hard, was consistent each game, was good defensively, and scored for us. Out of curiosity, which players did you feel were better for us over the course of last year? I truely believe Boeser was our most consistent player. BB is heading into his RFA - good chance, he shows up motivated this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Glensky Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I know this is is CDC, yet i am still surprised at how many people talk about seth jones in a Tyler burtuzzi thread Gurn just likes to stir the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wayne Glensky said: Gurn just likes to stir the pot. I also like to do that at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: BB is heading into his RFA - good chance, he shows up motivated this year Based off him being arguably our best player in a non career year last year, I should hope so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, shayster007 said: I thought Boeser played hard, was consistent each game, was good defensively, and scored for us. Out of curiosity, which players did you feel were better for us over the course of last year? I truely believe Boeser was our most consistent player. When you are handed top line duty with our best player, top pp time and put in every prime opportunity to put up points, how do you not put up points? We had no other options and our right side is weak. Boeser isnt a driver, by no means is he good defensively and on a contending team he'd be a support player. I understand we want to believe our top players are better than they actually are, but this is really why we've been perennial pretenders since 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, gurn said: I know this is CDC, yet I am still surprised at just how many people would trade 9th over all, plus Schmidt plus another player for 1 year of Seth Jones. Not Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, EddieVedder said: When you are handed top line duty with our best player, top pp time and put in every prime opportunity to put up points, how do you not put up points? We had no other options and our right side is weak. Boeser isnt a driver, by no means is he good defensively and on a contending team he'd be a support player. I understand we want to believe our top players are better than they actually are, but this is really why we've been perennial pretenders since 2011. But you aren't answering the question. I'm asking you if you don't think Boeser was our most consistent player last year, who was? I disagree with you entirely he wasn't good defensively last year. I saw a player who was back checking, playing smart defensively, playing the body when need be and not taking shifts off. IMO that's all you can ask for from the premier goal scorer on your team. I disagree with your assessment of Boeser entirely, that's been established. But I want to know what player you valued most on the team and the type of player you thought was our most consistent player over the course of last season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: When you are handed top line duty with our best player, top pp time and put in every prime opportunity to put up points, how do you not put up points? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 About Boeser, he's a valuable asset but for me it comes down to the facts that he will always be average defensively at best and is not someone driving play on his own. He's a good finisher but not on the level of Ovi/Laine/Matthews or even EP , so that ability in itself is not worth 7 mil+ in current climate. Does that mean he's a bad player or should automatically be traded or that he can't be a big part of a contender? No, but it means he's not a deciding factor on a contender and that his QO is about what you can pay him - and maybe it's still a bit much - without disrupting cap structure going forward. And hence the speculations. It should be noted though that his contract is not bad considering when it was signed (quite the opposite). If he has a big season along EP maybe he'll sign around the QO for a few years and it's a win for everybody, but if he wants more than that it becomes a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, shayster007 said: Based off him being arguably our best player in a non career year last year, I should hope so? Yeah, a highly motivated BB will benefit the team as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Yeah, a highly motivated BB will benefit the team as well Oh for sure. I'm just happy that we have seen a progression in Brock in non contract years. Speaks more about his character. I think Boeser is one of our better players on the team no doubt, and I think his character is top tier. That's a difficult thing to judge value on. But that's the reason his name is in the back of my jersey, not because he puts up good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, shayster007 said: Oh for sure. I'm just happy that we have seen a progression in Brock in non contract years. Speaks more about his character. I think Boeser is one of our better players on the team no doubt, and I think his character is top tier. That's a difficult thing to judge value on. But that's the reason his name is in the back of my jersey, not because he puts up good numbers. Yeah; as the Edlers’ move on, Iam looking forward as to how the identify of the team transitions to reflect the young core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, EddieVedder said: When you are handed top line duty with our best player, top pp time and put in every prime opportunity to put up points, how do you not put up points? We had no other options and our right side is weak. Boeser isnt a driver, by no means is he good defensively and on a contending team he'd be a support player. I understand we want to believe our top players are better than they actually are, but this is really why we've been perennial pretenders since 2011. How do you not put up points with those minutes? ask jeff skinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, ShawnAntoski said: Yeah; as the Edlers’ move on, Iam looking forward as to how the identify of the team transitions to reflect the young core. Sutter too. These guys were humble, hardworking professionals. I hope the young guys soaked it all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, shayster007 said: Sutter too. These guys were humble, hardworking professionals. I hope the young guys soaked it all in. I liked Sutter; but hindsight, has proven he was overpayed for his lack of on ice production due to injuries. Although, it seems his off ice reputation as a leader is intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, EddieVedder said: When you are handed top line duty with our best player, top pp time and put in every prime opportunity to put up points, how do you not put up points? We had no other options and our right side is weak. Boeser isnt a driver, by no means is he good defensively and on a contending team he'd be a support player. I understand we want to believe our top players are better than they actually are, but this is really why we've been perennial pretenders since 2011. Lmao I’ve seen Brock walk in and snipe plenty. “Isn’t a driver” I guess you probably aren’t a watcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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