Phil_314 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, King Heffy said: He needs a right-handed partner. He needs a right side D-partner. Schmidt's one of the LHD who can play on the right side, just like he did in Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, 2009cupchamps said: I wouldn’t say sell lie. We only paid a third for Schmit so it’s basically a 3rd and Rathbone. I think that’s low. We picked him up while he was a big minute D-man and I think it's too soon to write him off or consider him to have no value. Also cap dump valuations don't really work like that, it's not as though a previous trade locks them into their trade value for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statman Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bell said: How much do u guys pay the franchise? About 2k a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 We’ll get better by staying the same lol. a bit older and slower…. hopefully they decline and do Canucks a favour and Move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Tomorrow’s gonna be a nail bitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Edler as a third pairing d men is totally fine for a year or two. Hamonic is also ok as a number 4. This is gonna totally depend on the cost. And hopefully this is only too give both of them an idea of where we are at heading into expansion UFA talk. We should not sign anyone until after the ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, combover said: We’ll get better by staying the same lol. a bit older and slower…. hopefully they decline and do Canucks a favour and Move on. in the next week? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Edler as a third pairing d men is totally fine for a year or two. Hamonic is also ok as a number 4. This is gonna totally depend on the cost. And hopefully this is only too give both of them an idea of where we are at heading into expansion UFA talk. We should not sign anyone until after the ed. I agree but how is that different from last year? Are the Canucks targeting a #1 dman? Also, if they sign these guys what is the timing for protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: I agree but how is that different from last year? Are the Canucks targeting a #1 dman? Also, if they sign these guys what is the timing for protection? thats easy, July 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: thats easy, July 22nd. Right....so if they sign tomorrow they need protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) i hate these nay sayers. complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet. If they sign now it will be for cheap... and if they do, Benning already has spoken to seattle about who they would take. This is only good news. Edit: This means there is a plan, and we are ahead of the game. With rumours of schmidt leaving I'm dreaming big. Edited July 14, 2021 by Petey_BOI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chris12345 said: Right....so if they sign tomorrow they need protection? yup. Which is why they won't sign tomorrow. If they are coming here prior to the start of free agency, its already pre-arranged and they'll just sign after the ED. Edited July 14, 2021 by Jimmy McGill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 If Seattle wants one of them, they can also sign them in their window and that would go as our player. Riiiiight???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: yup. Which is why they won't sign tomorrow. If they are coming here prior to the start of free agency, its already pre-arranged and they'll just sign after the ED. Perfect my thoughts exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RWMc1 said: If Seattle wants one of them, they can also sign them in their window and that would go as our player. Riiiiight???? exactly, we can't hide them. We can only hope they don't take one of them. Honestly wouldn't be suprised if schmidt is being taken so we can replace him with someone like Hamilton, Larsson or Savard. all I'm saying is don't worry, because we're not the ones with the inside info. Edit: from what I remember Vegas Picked 2-3 players from UFA/RFA, im sure our ufa's are more desirable than Lind Edited July 14, 2021 by Petey_BOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Azzy said: It's the only way I'd do it. We should be moving on from this same tired old D core. what do you mean "Tired Old D core"? Edler has been here since the last Ice Age movie but after that Quinn is the longest serving D-man followed by Myers, Schmidt, Hamonic, Juolevi Chatter and Grapes of Rathbone 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, RWMc1 said: If Seattle wants one of them, they can also sign them in their window and that would go as our player. Riiiiight???? No. They have to pick a player that is signed for this season to be part of “available unprotected player” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I don't think the eye test in 8 games is sufficient when no playoff spots were on the line and teams were playing out the season. Rathbone has potential but is unproven in an 82 game schedule in the NHL. Juolevi and Rathbone would do better switching up as the season goes along. Edler took tough minutes plus Stech and Tanev credit him with some of their development. I still think he'd make a good mentor to the young guys until they are ready to take on top NHLers regularly. Harmonica seemed to gel with Huggy as the season progressed. I think we are not as bad as the season made us look. Another solid RHD and a center and we are looking good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said: No. They have to pick a player that is signed for this season to be part of “available unprotected player” no that's definetley not right, what do you think the window is for? look at the bolded, they can pick up to ten ufa/rfa Source. NHL.com Here are basic rules and procedures governing the expansion draft, the same guidelines that regulated the Vegas franchise stocking up its expansion team in 2017: Teams can protect eight skaters and a goalie OR seven forwards, three defensemen and a goalie. The Kraken must select at least 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goalies; four additional picks can be any position. Each NHL team must provide at least one defenseman who is under contract in 2021-22 and who has played a significant number of games within the last two NHL seasons and two forwards who meet the same criteria. The available goalie must be signed to an NHL contract or in receipt of a qualifying offer as a restricted free agent. Seattle must choose a minimum of 20 players under contract for the 2021-22 season. Those contracts must add up to between 60 to 100 percent of the league's salary cap (expect the lower percentage). Edited July 14, 2021 by Petey_BOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 just a reminder of what Edler did the last time he signed. he signed for two years - when he easily could have commanded far more term on the UFA market. He did so enabling the team to 'legally circumvent' the expansion draft. and he has continued to remain the team's primary workhorse defenseman - some folks like to error-gaze players like Edler and come to silly conclusions that he can no longer be effective because he's not as quick as he once was - but this is highly reductive and imo ignorant of how important he has remained to the franchise. there are some UFAs I like - a few of them LHD - Murray, Martinez, Oleksiak - but Hamonic is probably the 'easier' guy to replace - maybe as good a crop of RHD UFAs this summer (rare) - I like like Savard - some of the depth options (Hakanpaa, Ceci) - like Larsson as well - and Montour (although probably not the right fit here) - but regardless, I think the 'answer' to Hughes' partner may not be in the UFA market - probably have to take advantage of the buyers market hoping to land a pre-expansion-draft guy that otherwise would be unlikely to be available... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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