PhillipBlunt Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, Deets said: I wouldn't be so sure. Bolts are in cap hell right now and their veterans aren't the easiest to move. If any team can find away around the cap, it's Tampa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, RWJC said: Interesting news…read that Eliotte Friedman is reporting that although the Nux have offered contracts to Eddie and Hamonic, they won’t be offering one to Brandon Sutter. They are also fielding multiple calls on Holtby and that there is genuine interest in him. Will try and supply a link. This could be great for the team going forward. This makes sense once the ED is over and some teams have lost goalies while others are losing goalies via UFA. Holtby could be attractive to a few teams I think. I don't think we need to add a sweetener to move him either. With one year left on his deal we should be able to get a draft pick or prospect in return. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 If we can trade Holtby for a positive return and buy out Virtanen then our cap situation is greatly improved. That's $6.3 million freed up. If we can trade Schmidt that would free up even more money depending on the contract that comes back. We may be able to free up close to $10 million even if we keep Loui around. Should be an interesting few weeks. With Carlo signed to a $4.1 million deal I don't think these RHD UFA's will be able to command the prices that they want. You may be able to get a guy like Hakanpaa for under $3 million and Hamonic's value may be in the $2.5 million range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said: Elder should be year be year from here on in if anything. He needs to prove himself after a horrible showing last season. .. and tradeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, SilentSam said: .. and tradeable. Edler's going to retire a Canuck. Best you accept that now. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If we can trade Holtby for a positive return and buy out Virtanen then our cap situation is greatly improved. That's $6.3 million freed up. If we can trade Schmidt that would free up even more money depending on the contract that comes back. We may be able to free up close to $10 million even if we keep Loui around. Should be an interesting few weeks. With Carlo signed to a $4.1 million deal I don't think these RHD UFA's will be able to command the prices that they want. You may be able to get a guy like Hakanpaa for under $3 million and Hamonic's value may be in the $2.5 million range. Only thing is this is BOS signing one of their own, likely being incentivized/sold on the idea of re-signing guys like Hall and maybe pursuing top talents. Also, This isn't a UFA signing so still tough to measure out yet. Carlo has had some injury troubles so could be discounted a but based on that, but to your point he did get term, so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Edler's going to retire a Canuck. Best you accept that now. Then perhaps it’s time.. the cap space and open spot might have someone better step in or up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 ^ I agree, focus on a RD Edler can walk, would rather have OJ there and keep NS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I think Hamonic is a must and we need another solid RD option as well. Schmidt should go for a true RD option (Still would push for Ristolainen, but that's not the point). My main concern is that JB will spend all of his effort here and run out of time to truly improve the team. He'll either get too late into the process and miss out (Toffoli) or get too late into the process and panic (Roussel). Either way, this needs to be sorted right away or we need to move on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If we can trade Holtby for a positive return and buy out Virtanen then our cap situation is greatly improved. That's $6.3 million freed up. If we can trade Schmidt that would free up even more money depending on the contract that comes back. We may be able to free up close to $10 million even if we keep Loui around. Should be an interesting few weeks. With Carlo signed to a $4.1 million deal I don't think these RHD UFA's will be able to command the prices that they want. You may be able to get a guy like Hakanpaa for under $3 million and Hamonic's value may be in the $2.5 million range. Honestly don't see the purpose of buying out Virtanen. Even though shady stuff is going on with him, he'll still a young asset plenty of teams have taken a risk on a player like that in the past. I strongly believe he has positive value, even if it's only a 5th rounder, still better than dead cap with a buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, timberz21 said: Honestly don't see the purpose of buying out Virtanen. Even though shady stuff is going on with him, he'll still a young asset plenty of teams have taken a risk on a player like that in the past. I strongly believe he has positive value, even if it's only a 5th rounder, still better than dead cap with a buyout. Or we just keep him and let him play. Jake can absolutely contribute to our middle six. As soon as he lays out a big hit or scores a goal the fans will cheer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Then perhaps it’s time.. the cap space and open spot might have someone better step in or up. You're unlikely to get a better player, for less than what Edler signs here for. So much age related, baby and bathwater throwing out in this fanbase. And the very green Hughes, Juolevi and Rathbone will still require someone on that side that actually knows how to play D, can PK etc. Aging or not. 2 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, timberz21 said: Honestly don't see the purpose of buying out Virtanen. Even though shady stuff is going on with him, he'll still a young asset plenty of teams have taken a risk on a player like that in the past. I strongly believe he has positive value, even if it's only a 5th rounder, still better than dead cap with a buyout. Not at his cap hit and production. He took a pretty big step backwards on the ice this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Edler would benefit if he only plays around 15min but that is greens call on this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, teepain said: Edler would benefit if he only plays around 15min but that is greens call on this I'm thinking it's going to be Shaw's call going forward. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, aGENT said: Edler's going to retire a Canuck. Best you accept that now. You are correct. If dude has not gone by now, he probably wants to stay here on a "fair" contract for both parties while ensuring his family maintains their home. Would not be surprised in the least to see him join the Twins in the front office in a couple years. Not coach material per se, but I bet he also has a strong mind for the game/business overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Not at his cap hit and production. He took a pretty big step backwards on the ice this year. Not to mention the 3.4 mil in actual cash he's owed for next season. They tried to move him at the deadline and couldn't give him away. Since then his situation has gotten much worse. Crazy that dudes still haven't wrapped their heads around him having negative value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 hours ago, HKSR said: So... we're gonna roll with the same D core as last year? Ok... wish Benning did this last year, could have had Tanev and Toffoli. But I guess mediocre Edler is more of a key player than someone like Tanev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Zero issue with this, the team has 3 NHL defensemen under contract. Edler is severely underrated and is still a serviceable veteran. Hamonic would be a bonus and that still leaves room for the team to add depth for the upcoming season. I bet you see an immediate shift in utilizing the defense with Shaw on board as well. I have issues with keeping washed up players for eternity instead of improving. I guess another year down the drain with the same D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 hours ago, tas said: I'd say either incredibly team friendly deals or bust. 1 year $1.5 mil max for eagle, 3 years $2.5 m max for hamonic. I like both guys, but I agree with those saying change/improvement is needed, so if the team isn't getting a hellofa deal, let them walk. even if you get shut out of the big names in the ufa/trade market, replacing them with plugs for a year doesn't present enough of a drop-off in quality imo to justify spending more on those guys. Rather pay 4 to 5 mil for Larsson than have both Edler and Hamonic back at same cap hit. Larsson can play top minutes with Hughes and much better than Hamonic and Edler. They could also trade schmidt for another D or keep him and bring guys like Rathbone and Julovi up with the team. We need to change D personnel, cant keep signing same failures over and over again. They got rid of Tanev the heart and soul guy and a morr superior player and now they want to keep a more inferior Edler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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