JM_ Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes like I said we’d be winning some games 6-5. But do you really want Dougie Hamilton partnering Hughes? First off Hamilton wouldn’t be on the first unit PP unless we switch formations and play 2 D. Secondly he wouldn’t be on the first unit PK either. So you are going to be paying a guy $8 million+ to not contribute on the top special teams units. If you want Hamilton as a Schmidt replacement then that’s a different story. But if you are brining in Hamilton as a straight swap for Hamonic then all of a sudden Myers is playing the top unit PK. I’d rather we trade Schmidt and get some more beef on the backline. With Hughes and Rathbone we will have 2 excellent puck movers. We need to surround them with better quality defensive defencemen. I think you'd pair them situationally, like when we're down a goal e.g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Haven't checked all 20 pages. Anyone squabbling yet? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, oldnews said: (Hamonic would be good depth, but I wouldn't be 'planning' to head into next season with him as Hughes' partner.) May not have a choice unfortunately. I'd love Mayfield but in think NYI trade/lose Leddy first. Thoughts on Jensen out of WAS as a potential ED acquisition? Has a bit of a Tanev vibe to him IMO. Not 'exciting' but just calmly sucks up opposition pressure and turns it back the other way. Hamonic, Jensen, Mayfield, Hakanpaa etc or otherwise, we likely need a better long term fit there eventually. But any of these guys can do their best filling that spot in the interim IMO. Rome wasn't built in a day. Edited July 15, 2021 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gawdzukes Posted July 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, aGENT said: May not have a choice unfortunately. I'd love Mayfield but in think NYI trade/lose Leddy first. Thoughts on Jensen out of WAS as a potential ED acquisition? Has a bit of a Tanev vibe to him IMO. Not 'exciting' but just calmly sucks up opposition pressure and turns it back the other way. Hamonic, Jensen, Mayfield, Hakanpaa etc or otherwise, we likely need a better long term fit there eventually. But any of these guys can do their best filling that spot in the interim IMO. Rome wasn't built in a day. But he was suspended in less than a second. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I would honestly just re sign edler only at a team friendly deal. We can find another cheaper hamonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I don’t wanna see Edler come back unless it’s for 5/6 spot and 2mill max! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RWJC said: His injury history last couple seasons is concerning Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: I think you'd pair them situationally, like when we're down a goal e.g. For sure. But then Hamilton is not a Hamonic replacement. He would be replacing Schmidt. So you’d have to trade Schmidt, try and sign Hamilton to an $8 million+ contract and then either re-sign Hamonic or find a replacement that can kill penalties. Hamilton wouldn’t be playing with Hughes so effectively he would be on your 2nd pairing getting paid $8 million+ and he can’t kill penalties. Teams looking to sign Hamilton would be looking for a top pairing D who can play first unit PP. We already have Hughes in that role so a Hamilton signing doesn’t really make a lot of sense for us, especially at the price it will cost. Edited July 15, 2021 by Elias Pettersson 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chris12345 Posted July 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: For sure. But then Hamilton is not a Hamonic replacement. He would be replacing Schmidt. So you’d have to trade Schmidt, try and sign Hamilton to an $8 million+ contract and then either re-sign Hamonic or find a replacement that can kill penalties. Hamilton wouldn’t be playing with Hughes so effectively he would be on your 2nd pairing getting paid $8 million+ and he can’t kill penalties. Teams looking to sign Hamilton would be looking for a top pairing D who can play first unit PP. We already have Hughes in that role so a Hamilton signing doesn’t really make a lot of sense for us, especially at the price it will cost. No Hamilton is awesome but I want a tough sob that can play the right side. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Warhippy said: Edler at $3.25 million or less is an absolute no brainer. Show me any D man his age with his actual numbers who does what he does so consistently and well that does it for $3.25 million or less. elder is still one of our best defenceman and if he's half of what he's worth as he ages that's fine. I honestly can not think of a single D available we could have that would do comparable or better than edler for less than $4 million. I get the hate, I get the heat on Edler; but if he'd had the last 3 seasons he did, under the team we had at $3.25 million or less nobody would have said a word We both know that ain't true, not in this market There'd have been "asset management" proposals wanting to flip his low cap hit/high team value for picks/prospects/players, or threads panicking over how he's going to get a huge raise or a long-term career finishing contract There's always something to bitch about, and if there isn't people will make things up Edited July 15, 2021 by Coconuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, captainhorvat said: I don’t wanna see Edler come back unless it’s for 5/6 spot and 2mill max! I worry that Travis Green will, simply out of familiarity and comfortableness, overplay Edler which will not be good for anyone. If he can be deployed as a 6th or 7th guy with appropriate ice time then I am okay with him coming back. But I don't want to see him getting ice ahead of the younger quicker guys.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, King Heffy said: Not at his cap hit and production. He took a pretty big step backwards on the ice this year. It’s one year. It’s not a contender that’s going to take a chance on him, it’s going to be a team like Ottawa, Buffalo or Phoenix. They don’t have cap problem, and it’s not enough to be a financial deterrent either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: 5 goals and no assists for $2.5 million. I think most teams will pass on that. If he was Patrick Kane nobody would care about his off ice stuff. If he has regressed on the ice and he also has off the ice issues then I don't think he has positive value at all. Yet somehow, the Fire Benning chants were everywhere because he traded Gaudette and his 4G, 3A and actually got something in return, smh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 3 hours ago, captainhorvat said: I don’t wanna see Edler come back unless it’s for 5/6 spot and 2mill max! I don’t want Edler for less than 6yrs @ $6.000 MIL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Me_ said: I don’t want Edler for less than 6yrs @ $6.000 MIL. Compromise somewhere in between? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 hours ago, aGENT said: May not have a choice unfortunately. I'd love Mayfield but in think NYI trade/lose Leddy first. Thoughts on Jensen out of WAS as a potential ED acquisition? Has a bit of a Tanev vibe to him IMO. Not 'exciting' but just calmly sucks up opposition pressure and turns it back the other way. Hamonic, Jensen, Mayfield, Hakanpaa etc or otherwise, we likely need a better long term fit there eventually. But any of these guys can do their best filling that spot in the interim IMO. Rome wasn't built in a day. lets not bring up Aaron, it's been a long enough day already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) I dont think Canuck fans realize how much they are undervaluing Edler…. And how much its going to hurt our back end if he leaves…. Let me put this nice and simple Edler was paired with Schmidt… 561:51 of ice time which was 51.7% of his total deployment…. Edler had 13 takeaways and 26 give aways….. Schmidt had 18 take aways….. AND SIXTY-EIGHT F***ING GIVE AWAYS six-TEE-ate… SIX……TEA…..8 I REPEAT 68!!! Edited July 15, 2021 by knucklehead91 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, knucklehead91 said: I dont think Canuck fans realize how much they are undervaluing Edler…. And how much its going to hurt our back end if he leaves…. Let me put this nice and simple Edler was paired with Schmidt… 561:51 of ice time which was 51.7% of his total deployment…. Edler had 13 takeaways and 26 give aways….. Schmidt had 18 take aways….. AND SIXTY-EIGHT F***ING GIVE AWAYS six-TEE-ate… SIX……TEA…..8 I REPEAT 68!!! The player who is in charge of skating the puck out of his zone will always have more giveaways. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, coryberg said: The player who is in charge of skating the puck out of his zone will always have more giveaways. Yeah, giveaway/takeaway ratio isn’t really a good stat for valuing or comparing defensemen, especially when it comes to puck movers. That said, the overall point that @knucklehead91 is making is a valid one: Edler is massively underrated by a significant portion of the Canucks fanbase. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 5:57 PM, Jester13 said: Aight, Eddie, our loyalty has been amazing, and so has yours. Now, please sign a loyalty team-friendly twilight deal to end your career with us: 2 years @ $3m total AAV 1.5. Hamonic, 2 years @ $2m per. Thanks, Canucks Fans THN had Edler 2-3 and Hamonic 1-2 .... didn't say them though...I assume that Edler is 2 x 2 at most and pretty much the same for Hamonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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