Bertuzzipunch Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Great the exact same defense as last year im so excited for next season. (sacasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Last year was also a flat cap year. Tyson Barrie got $5 or $6 mill. Shattenkirk near $4 mill x 2 or 3 years (cannot remember). Point is it will still cost $3 to $5 mill to get a 2knd pair defenseman of any substance. There will be one or two bargain deal late when guys lose leverage. There will be 8 or 10 others > where teams seek bargains? Yet don't achieve any such substance... It will also still cost $5 to $8 mill, more, for a bonafide top pair defender. Or equivalent pain in assets... Two 2knd pair D for $4mill combined would be a major achievement! Flat cap will also continue for at least another 1 - 2 years. I don't really think we'll see an increase until 23/24 season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Would be happy to see Hamonic back. For what he brings, re-signing him would be a good idea. I'd hope that the team at least waits until free agency before committing money to Edler. If they could sign a player like Oleksiak or someone of that size range, Edler becomes far less relevant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: If Edler is above 3M Not good cap wise. We need a bona-fide big hitter back there. Lot of ufa options towards that. There really is no rush to sign Edler. He wants to stay here. Edler -- 1.7 -- 2.2 million range X 1 yr he is 36 now--- Suter would be interesting now... Hamoniac - 2.2 --2.5 X 2 yrs Still want Graves 6'5-- TOI -- 20:00 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: No chance Hamonic can easily get 2-3 million out there. Well i said PLS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2021 Sorry I'm late, popcorn line was long 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, EliasBoeser said: Oh boy.. nothing against either of them but watching the d last year, it seems silly to give the same lineup another go.. it’s one thing if they’re stuck under contract but to re-sign the same d-core.. not a fan of this. The kids were the weak point last season. Hughes' defense was abysmal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Would be happy to see Hamonic back. For what he brings, re-signing him would be a good idea. I'd hope that the team at least waits until free agency before committing money to Edler. If they could sign a player like Oleksiak or someone of that size range, Edler becomes far less relevant. Wait till the dust settles for signing Edler by then we should shed some contracts. Edited July 13, 2021 by Hairy Kneel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RWJC said: Newell Brown. Shaw probably has major input into the roster for next season and very likely has green lit from his side of things. Baumer can learn some things from Shaw as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, stawns said: The kids were the weak point last season. Hughes' defense was abysmal Really have to re think Hughes D Last year he was as bad as the old retirement Sedin's back there. Pushing a little pylon out of the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Torts Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: lol. is this a joke? Cause that's not happening for either player. I said please ffs. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RWJC said: Shaw probably has major input into the roster for next season and very likely has green lit from his side of things. Baumer can learn some things from Shaw as well. I believe this is the case going forward, and if it isn't, it should be. At the present, he possesses the most NHL experience as a coach of anyone in the organization. He should be leaned on heavily. BumG could learn everything from Shaw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Great the exact same defense as last year im so excited for next season. (sacasm) The point is we still have to another Dman or 2 IF these 2 are signed. It’s not as simple as just letting Hamonic walk and getting another defencemen. Are we going to find someone cheaper and more effective then Hamonic? Not very good odds. Don’t complain until see what else develops. It was more than just a player personal issue last year. Maybe keeping some of the glue together and adding to it is the right way to go about it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Well the farm hasn't really been successful for us and our college free agents haven't really been pro ready, so we have t2look elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Mr. Benning, Jamie Olesiak and Jani Hakanpaa are available as UFA’s. Just wanted to let you know in case your paperwork is not up to date. With love always, Petey 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Mr. Benning, Jamie Olesiak and Jani Hakanpaa are available as UFA’s. Just wanted to let you know in case your paperwork is not up to date. With love always, Petey Oleksiak and Hakanpaa could be re-signed by their respective teams before free agency. I'd love to have both on the team, mind you, but they'd also have to want to be on the team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Devron44 said: The point is we still have to another Dman or 2 IF these 2 are signed. It’s not as simple as just letting Hamonic walk and getting another defencemen. Are we going to find someone cheaper and more effective then Hamonic? Not very good odds. Don’t complain until see what else develops. It was more than just a player personal issue last year. Maybe keeping some of the glue together and adding to it is the right way to go about it The other thing is, Hamonic's on record in saying that he wants to be here. We already knew Edler wants to be here. Are we going to find two UFA's who want to be here who'd be more flexible on price and term than Edler and Hamonic? Unlikely. Especially Edler, but Hamonic too given he's spent at least a year with the organization now. There's also no guarantee that we'd get who we want from the UFA market, there are going to be 31 other teams out there considering the same players we would be. It's not as simple as "let these two guys walk and grab x and y". Edited July 13, 2021 by Coconuts 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I can't understand why almost every topic (rumour) is getting such a negative reaction, plus finger pointing (The Team / Benning) from some people when nothing has even happened yet! Even if a few things do happen, there is still the whole summer including some key dates to make all the changes they want to make. People talking about the same defense...again, nothing has happened yet and again, there is a whole summer to make changes, even if they make 1-2 now. They could re-sign Hamonic and Edler (which isn't the worst thing) and still make other changes. Plus, i think hiring Shaw needs to be factored into the changes as well. And, it's easy to say don't re-sign so and so, but every player that leaves needs replaced and sometimes that's easier said than done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Oleksiak and Hakanpaa could be re-signed by their respective teams before free agency. I'd love to have both on the team, mind you, but they'd also have to want to be on the team too. This is true. I just wanted to make sure Benning’s paperwork was up to date and that he actually knows they are UFA’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Great the exact same defense as last year im so excited for next season. (sacasm) So is Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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