wallstreetamigo Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: It’s Buffalo. Who doesn’t like Buffalo? Lol who does is a much shorter list 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, 2009cupchamps said: I know it will take more but with Jones uncertainty of resigning it will be hard to get teams to give up to much. Van: Jones Columbus: Schmitt, Rathbone and a conditional 1st if he re-signs. Hughes Hamonic UFA/Edler Jones Joulevi Myers UFA/Edler Chafield cn we all agree to just stop with the Jones proposals? He's 100% not coming to Van. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil_314 said: Depending on the price, I might prefer to bring in Suter instead. Haven't seen him much this year but I'd bet he has more left in the tank than Edler. Of course, we'd need to sign Hughes and Petey first, but if there's enough room, he and Schmidt would be a strong big minute pairing. We know we can get Edler. Suter coming here would take extra money and term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Depending on the price, I might prefer to bring in Suter instead. Haven't seen him much this year but I'd bet he has more left in the tank than Edler. Of course, we'd need to sign Hughes and Petey first, but if there's enough room, he and Schmidt would be a strong big minute pairing. and Suter would come to Van? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: Lol who does is a much shorter list That was on a tee, so I was expecting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009cupchamps Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, stawns said: cn we all agree to just stop with the Jones proposals? He's 100% not coming to Van. Why would you say that. If we offer the best package for a one year player before he’s a UFA. You must be related to him to know what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Alflives said: We know we can get Edler. Suter coming here would take extra money and term. And for us to be a legit entity as a contender, which we are not yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, 2009cupchamps said: Conditional 1st if he re-signs. I'd prefer not to sell so low on Schmidt (AND Rathbone) for an asset in Jones which may have inflated value due to the potential bidding war. Rather just let him him UFA or offer something else besides the 1st and Jack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, RWJC said: And for us to be a legit entity as a contender, which we are not yet. Which is exactly why it would cost more money and term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, 2009cupchamps said: Why would you say that. If we offer the best package for a one year player before he’s a UFA. You must be related to him to know what he wants. Petey, 1st + would be the minimum asking price to even be remotely close to being in the mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, stawns said: and Suter would come to Van? You never know, if Benning picks up the phone there's at least the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Ugh why not just let edler walk. It’s time. He’s a liability now. Slower than syrup drying up on sea of cupcakes ! Edited July 14, 2021 by sassbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009cupchamps Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Phil_314 said: I'd prefer not to sell so low on Schmidt (AND Rathbone) for an asset in Jones which may have inflated value due to the potential bidding war. Rather just let him him UFA or offer something else besides the 1st and Jack. I wouldn’t say sell lie. We only paid a third for Schmit so it’s basically a 3rd and Rathbone. I think that’s low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Phil_314 said: You never know, if Benning picks up the phone there's at least the possibility. and if they let eddie and Hampnic walk and we find out suter doesn't want to come to Van? Then what? At this point in the rebuild, they are better with the devils they know 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, HKSR said: So... we're gonna roll with the same D core as last year? Ok... I don't get it myself. So if there were 6 dman last year, I am willing to bet 43 returns...so does Myers. Just bad as there isn't much room for change. Edited July 14, 2021 by Chris12345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, sassbs said: Ugh why not just let edler walk. It’s time. He’s a liability now. Slower than syrup drying up on sea of cupcakes ! Or at least wait a couple months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, stawns said: and Suter would come to Van? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, stawns said: and if they let eddie and Hampnic walk and we find out suter doesn't want to come to Van? Then what? At this point in the rebuild, they are better with the devils they know I never said don't contact them, my priority list after EP and QH would probably be 1) get Hamonic locked up, 2) try to sign Suter depending on his asking price and 3) contact Edler around the same time as Suter [keep him as a backup option unless they trust Juolevi, which I'd be open to]. Edler in particular is at the point in his career where I hope they don't circle back to him (just like when Burr was traded to Ottawa or Hansen to SJ, there comes a time for veterans to get moved, and that's when they've slowed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 Edler the teams leading penalty killer at 3:27/game hardest minutes on the blueline 32.2% ozone starts 44.4% corsi team leader in blocked shots = 118 lead the blueline with 80 hits. (61.4% of his ice time with Schmidt). Hamonic #4 penalty killing defenseman at 1:58/game 52% ozone starts 44.9% corsi 2nd in blocks with 80 48 hits. (played 79.3% of his 5on5 ice time with Hughes). I'm surprised there are as many folks in here who believe Hamonic is/should be the bigger priority. Not only is/was Edler more important to the team - but he played harder minutes, with arguably considerably better outcomes. The additional factor here, imo - is that Edler aside, the team has three young LHD - Hughes, Juolevi and now Rathbone, that they are looking to integrate into the lineup (pushing Schmidt to the right side). On the other hand, Myers, Schmidt and Hamonic was a far more veteran right side.... Edler is a borderline no-brainer imo - the workhorse that has been a part of this franchise his entire career - and continues to shoulder the heaviest workload on the blueline. That could stand to change - but replacing him - the kind of role he plays - at the kind of terms he'll likely be willing to return at - would not be an easy task. Hamonic would make a good 3rd RHD imo - but the principal area the team needs to address imo - is Hughes' partner - particularly moving forward - the team needs to upgrade on Hamonic. If he's willing to come back at depth terms, as a secondary option to fill in as Hughes' partner, I'd be interested - but the majority of proposals in this thread I would not offer him. Bring Edler back at reasonable terms reflective of the fact he's still capable of playing 20+ hard minutes a night. Hamonic did not really earn/command an uptick on his terms - as much as I appreciate the guy - he was horrible for a long stretch to start the season - and simply is not the answer to a partner for Hughes. Look to upgrade on Hamonic whether or not he's willing to return at depth terms. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 How much do u guys pay the franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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