Alflives Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: There's more to defensive play then just taking draws. Apparently Dickinson was Dallas's top PK'er last year... I don’t disagree with that. Motte is a great PKer too. But this guy isn’t a centre Green is going to use taking D zone draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, Convincing John said: Honestly, Why does Jim love players where offence dies. Gross Just now, appleboy said: These are the kind of deals I was hoping for. Fill some defensive holes without giving up any high picks. We have the offense. We need a couple of stay at home defenseman now. Maybe another gritty bottom six forward. Do this without taking away or using a 1st or 2nd round pick. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: A 2nd n c prospect for leddy or graves wouldn’t of been over paying Why would we have traded for Leddy when we already have Hughes, Rathbone and Schmidt? Leddy doesn't kill penalties. We have enough smallish Dmen who don't play physical. 2 2 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Johnny Torts said: 3rd line Centre, check. Ya, For Abby 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Scottydzik said: A 2nd n c prospect for leddy or graves wouldn’t of been over paying Leddy is a UFA after next season, isn't exactly a shutdown guy, and has a hefty contract. Trading a 2nd for an overpaid rental isn't something I'd like to see. While I like Graves, he's a left hand shot, and Maltsev isn't a C prospect. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Looks like a decent trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Are we sure this isn’t our new fourth line center? Maybe Beagle is on the way out to clear up cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 He’s An upgrade over sutter. and for a cap hit that makes sense for a bottom six player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I just really don't understand this. There are some exciting 3rd rounders. But I guess any time you trade a 3rd for a bonafide player on any line it's a win. Sure would have liked Samuel Helenius in the pipe though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: We need a guy who can take D zone draws, so Bo dorsnt have to always do it. Yes, he’s decent depth, but is he worth protecting (he’s coming 27) over Lind? 100% I think he is worth it. We’ll see what happens. At the end of the day we need a couple forwards along with the defence. With Hill going to San Jose and how this deal ended up being last minute. I think Seattle is actually going to take Holtby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stanleysteamersmyl Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Not miserable just know when a guy isn’t capable for the job A established bottom six NHL player for a 3rd round pick. How many 3rd round picks make the NHL? Nate Schmidt traded for a 3rd round pick. Miller for a 1st round pick. Jimbob is doing well so far. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Devron44 said: Doesn’t matter because they are taking Holtby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Convincing John said: Ya, For Abby Well that’s not very convincing John 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RWJC Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AV. said: This is an okay deal on paper. Dickinson is a good age and can play a defensive game. Doesn't really do much else, however. He hasn't been positioned to do anything else by DAL though. He played under Hitchcock who assigns roles that you don't play outside of or you ride pine. Whether he signs and stays, is left unprotected or used in part for a trade, it doesn't matter. It's an asset we picked up for the now. A future 3rd is exactly that- a future question mark. Anyway you slice it, whatever the outcome, this is an upgrade for the team. Only way we lose is if JB doesn't sign him and he walks...then it's real time to talk asset management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I don’t disagree with that. Motte is a great PKer too. But this guy isn’t a centre Green is going to use taking D zone draws. BO and Beagle can take those draws. Much more important to have a top PK'er who can play with Motte. And his play without the puck is very good. He can even drop the gloves if he has too. This is what Benning was looking for. a 3C with size who can play physical and be a top Pk'er. He's not a perfect specimen, you are not going to get that for a 3rd round pick. I would have preferred Appleton but the cost was much higher. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 JB must know that Seattle is going to pick Holtby otherwise this deal is not worth losing Gadjovic/Lind. If one of our kids get taken it'd be pretty disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, stanleysteamersmyl said: A established bottom six NHL player for a 3rd round pick. How many 3rd round picks make the NHL? Nate Schmidt traded for a 3rd round pick. Miller for a 1st round pick. Jimbob is doing well so far. The trade isn’t complete until we see who Seattle takes. If they take Lind, then it’s a third and Lind for Dickinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Just to add to my earlier post, where I called Dickinson a “defensive forward,” I’d actually say he has the potential to be a solid middle-six two-way player. Last season, his offensive stats were pretty soft (especially on the analytics side), but the previous two years, he provided over 4 GAR (goals above replacement) of even strength offence per season. If he can get back to that type of offensive value, plus maintaining his defence, he would be close to a 2 WAR player (+2 wins above replacement per season), which is excellent. He’s also been productive at lower levels, so I wouldn’t write him off offensively, especially if he’s given opportunities. That said, he obvious value is on the defensive side (at evens) and the PK. Edited July 17, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mustard Tiger Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Convincing John said: Honestly, Why does Jim love players where offence dies. Gross Only our fanbase would think 3/4 liners have to score 40+ minimum or fire everyone 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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