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35 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Giving away key assets of your team.. 50 years of cup drought and counting because of decisions like this 

We would have signed him and then the fan base would be bitching in 2 years when he's crippled and can't play. It was the right move. 

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9 minutes ago, Alflives said:

But is he next year, when Lind is a year more developed?  

Is Lind projected to be a top 10 PK specialist?

 

He has been known to have his head down a lot, doesn’t read the game well enough to spot danger.

 

that said he is a good player and should grind out a career in the NHL but he is not the second coming of Gretzky or Bergeron 

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5 minutes ago, Beary Sweet said:

Good pick up. Dickinson has some potential and a solid 2 or 3C. You can utilize him on the PK and very solid on face offs. This likely marks the end for Sutter. Now, get Huggy Bear and Petey locked up!

 

You do realize Dickison is a career 44% on face-offs, right?  If that's your definition of "very solid" on face offs, then you may want to re-calibrate.

 

All in all, a good pick up...marked improvement on on-ice performance and potential cap hit vs. Brandon Sutter.  Dickison has been pretty durable over the past two seasons, also an improvement over Sutter.  Only metric that needs to be improved in face-offs (as many have already stated).  Would very much prefer going into the new season with Dickison as third line centre than what the Canucks have had over the past few seasons.

 

Nice trade by JB.

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11 minutes ago, coryberg said:

This is true. But let's not pretend he has never worked on this before and will now instantly become better.

True, but going to a new team that sees you as their key shut down center and pker, and will prolly want you to work specifically on draws. I imagine you go hard to fix that. Maybe that's just me, but faceoffs are something you can 100% progress on 

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Just now, UKNuck96 said:

Is kind projected to be a top 10 PK specialist?

 

He has been known to have his head down a lot, doesn’t read the game well enough to spot danger.

 

that said he is a good player and should grind out a career in the NHL but he is not the second coming of Gretzky or Bergeron 

Would you settle for the second coming of David Bolland?  If Kole Lind can carve out a career as a David Bolland-type player, I would be thrilled. 

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1 minute ago, Vermette9 said:

True, but going to a new team that sees you as their key shut down center and pker, and will prolly want you to work specifically on draws. I imagine you go hard to fix that. Maybe that's just me, but faceoffs are something you can 100% progress on 

There is definitely room and time for improvement we can all agree on that

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

44% face-off guy isn’t exactly elite defensively.  

losing 1 faceoff compared to the other team every other game is nothing to worry about. cup winners have won many times with having a below average faceoff man on the dot. Gourde Point and cirelli were all below 50%.

 

I would much rather have his 11 extra turnovers than worry about his 22 faceoff losses. Very little offense is generated from faceoffs, odd man rushes is where the danger comes from. 

 

5vs5 play wins games and 80% of 5vs5 shifts are on the fly

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35 minutes ago, Convincing John said:

I’ve watched him every game for the past 3 seasons. I’m not a fan 

and this is why YOU are a fan and not a GM!  and so glad JB dont listen to people here and does what he feels is best for his hockey team 

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2 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:

No it isn't.

I guess technically it would be the delta/difference between Lind and however they would have otherwise taken if Lind was protected (Gadjovich?).  There isn't a ton of daylight between the two players to me honestly.  No idea if either of them ever becomes a meaningful NHLer.  

The cost of using up a protection slot certainly has to be factored into any pre-expansion trade costs... that is the entire point of this extra trade deadline, leveraging those spots.

If you count Lind on the "cost"side of the trade, you have to count who we would have otherwise lost if it wasn't Lind on the "return" side because we have that player and wouldn't have otherwise.

 

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