JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I was hoping we'd get a crack at him. At 3.6 AAV he'd be great as our 3C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I was hoping we'd get a crack at him. At 3.6 AAV he'd be great as our 3C. Isnt he a LW? His highest goal total in a season is 8. Meh sounds like a old jim signing. New jim is much better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) This is the time of the year when GMs lose their minds. Edited July 19, 2021 by awalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Isnt he a LW? His highest goal total in a season is 8. Meh sounds like a old jim signing. New jim is much better he's a C/LW. He's pretty decent on face offs. Would be a great fit with Dickinson and Podz. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: he's a C/LW. He's pretty decent on face offs. Would be a great fit with Dickinson and Podz. Ah well. Least effective guy on that 3rd line meh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Least effective guy on that 3rd line meh fair enough, its all academic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: fair enough, its all academic now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Least effective guy on that 3rd line meh WAR is right up there with hero charts - perhaps even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 hours ago, awalk said: This is the time of the year when GMs lose their minds. It’s absolutely true. But this guy was traded for a seventh round pick. So don’t think there’s any loss there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, N4ZZY said: It’s absolutely true. But this guy was traded for a seventh round pick. So don’t think there’s any loss there. Talking about the contract NYR is reportedly giving him. Yes, 7th for the rights to negotiate with a pending UFA is fairly standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, awalk said: Talking about the contract NYR is reportedly giving him. Yes, 7th for the rights to negotiate with a pending UFA is fairly standard. Ah the contract. What’s the rumor around that? 3 million for this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Ah the contract. What’s the rumor around that? 3 million for this guy? 6 years, 3.6mil AAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 wow the term is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Least effective guy on that 3rd line meh I’ve looked into these WAR stats only a little bit and it doesn’t really seem too convincing. I much rather go by the old school stats like goals, assists, plus/minus and time on ice. Edited July 20, 2021 by grandmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Yikes... rumours are that he's looking for a 6 year deal, and he's 28. Big no for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Wow makes pearsons contract look a lot better now Pearson's contract never looked bad if you weren't a reactionary yahoo about it. But yeah... 6 years Edited July 20, 2021 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 7 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: That contract is number one b***s**t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Least effective guy on that 3rd line meh Goodrow is actually better than Coleman. Hes logged a ton of minutes for the Lightning's cup run some times even more than names like Stamkos lol. Of course this could turn out to be a horrible 6 x 3.6mil contract. But this looks like his payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, grandmaster said: I’ve looked into these WAR stats only a little bit and it doesn’t really seem too convincing. I much rather go by the old school stats like goals, assists, plus/minus and time on ice. do you understand how they are calculated? the more complicated stats WAR Xoff and Xdef. WAR is a complicated mix of stats that is not perfect, basically all of them and they are assigned values to match the previous 5 seasons and what made up a good player. They are averages and they can be and are flawed. But you can compare WAR to linemates for very comparable results. otherwise it can be wishy washy. But if your in a hurry, just compare two players war and results should be considerably close alot of the stats are pretty simple like EV offense PP and EV Defense, PK is basically TOI * Goals/60 (x defense contains hits, block shots, faceoffs, turnovers and converts them into expected defense (again based off previuous 5 seasons) finishing is the difference between the worst and best player (and how they rank) at scoring certain shots from specific distances and angles penalty is the difference between penalties taken and drawn broken down into colors red bad, blue good. 3% red means he takes 3% more penalties than drawn. qoc: how good are your linemates? measured in war Qot: how good is you opponents? all the stats are simple except for WAR and the expected stats. If i Went to NHL.com I could recreate these stats but it would take me an hour to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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