Alflives Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Those teams still want to dump contracts. The opportunity is still there and if anything the price is now higher. Tampa will probably trade Johnson to them with a 1st and Foote. Philly would probably dump Voracek with a 1st and a prospect. Theres still many opportunities for them. That’s collecting picks, but those two players aren’t making them any better. Some of the guys the Krackheads picked (Lind) are likely going to just get waived before the season starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 To build off that, I hope GMs tell Francis to pound sand. Cap space is only valuable when you use it, so if it just sits there because nobody wants to pay he’s hooped. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dazzle said: I guess. Seattle is off to a very poor start. Are they addicted to drafting high? I wonder if they’re trying to increase their odds of getting one of the franchise forwards available in the next two years? By my count there are four available in 2022 and two extreme talents in 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Introducing the Seattle Kraken... Forwards Tyler Pitlick (Arizona Coyotes) Morgan Geekie (Carolina Hurricanes) John Quenneville (Chicago Blackhawks) Joonas Donskoi (Colorado Avalanche Calle Jarnkrok (Nashville Predators) Nathan Bastian (New Jersey Devils) Jordan Eberle (New York Islanders) Colin Blackwell (New York Rangers) Carsen Twarynski (Philadelphia Flyers) Brandon Tanev (Pittsburgh Penguins) Alexander True (San Jose Sharks) Yanni Gourde (Tampa Bay Lightning) Jared McCann (Toronto Maple Leafs) Kole Lind (Vancouver Canucks) Mason Appleton (Winnipeg Jets) Defencemen Haydn Fleury (Anaheim Ducks) Jeremy Lauzon (Boston Bruins) William Borgen (Buffalo Sabres) Mark Giordano (Calgary Flames) Gavin Bayreuther (Columbus Blue Jackets) Adam Larsson (Edmonton Oilers) Jamie Oleksiak (Dallas Stars) Dennis Cholowski (Detroit Red Wings) Kurtis MacDermid (Los Angeles Kings) Carson Soucy (Minnesota Wild) Cale Fleury (Montreal Canadiens) Vince Dunn (St. Louis Blues) Goaltenders Chris Driedger (Florida Panthers) Joey Daccord (Ottawa Senators) Vitek Vanecek (Washington Capitals) What the..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: That’s collecting picks, but those two players aren’t making them any better. Some of the guys the Krackheads picked (Lind) are likely going to just get waived before the season starts. I mean they’re better than their current depth up front. If their plan is to be bad for a few seasons it’s a win win anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Oh yeah..ya gotta' LOVE that clueless Dubie squandered McCann..which I thought was a decent Laffs acquisition. This makes my morning iced coffee a lil' richer in flavour! :^) Edited July 21, 2021 by Nuxfanabroad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: That’s collecting picks, but those two players aren’t making them any better. Some of the guys the Krackheads picked (Lind) are likely going to just get waived before the season starts. Rumour has it the Rangers are looking at Giordano. Giordano for Strome is one option that improves their center depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: It could also be a long term bargaining strategy by Francis… he set the price for taking on bad contracts super high and nobody bit… so he called their bluff and avoided big contracts. Now, heading into the draft, free agency and a future trade deadline teams know the bar for his sweet sweet cap space. I dunno - just trying to figure out what they’re thinking. they're thinking other peoples mistakes shouldn't be repeated. Which is good on the one hand, but if they don't come out of this week with a lot of picks it seems like a wasted opportunity. I do wonder if they have a deal in place for Grubauer or Anderson that we hear about tomorrow... it would explain the goalie picks. Edited July 21, 2021 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: It could also be a long term bargaining strategy by Francis… he set the price for taking on bad contracts super high and nobody bit… so he called their bluff and avoided big contracts. Now, heading into the draft, free agency and a future trade deadline teams know the bar for his sweet sweet cap space. I dunno - just trying to figure out what they’re thinking. I think the owners ran out of money. They just spent $650 million and most likely the bank cut them off... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: In comparison, this is what the Golden Knights picked during their Expansion Draft: Calvin Pickard G, Colorado Avalanche Luca Sbisa D, Vancouver Canucks Teemu Pulkkinen F, Arizona Coyotes Jon Merrill D, New Jersey Devils William Carrier F, Buffalo Sabres Tomas Nosek, Detroit Red Wings Cody Eakin F, Dallas Stars Jonathan Marchessault F, Florida Panthers Brayden McNabb D, Los Angeles Kings Connor Brickley F, Carolina Hurricanes Chris Thorburn F, Winnipeg Jets Pierre-Edouard Bellemare F, Philadelphia Flyers Jason Garrison D, Tampa Bay Lightning J.F. Berube G, New York Islanders James Neal F, Nashville Predators Deryk Engelland D, Calgary Flames Brendan Leipsic F, Toronto Maple Leafs Colin Miller D, Boston Bruins Marc Methot D, Ottawa Senators David Schlemko D, San Jose Sharks David Perron F, St. Louis Blues Oscar Lindberg F, New York Rangers Griffin Reinhart D, Edmonton Oilers Alexei Emelin D, Montreal Canadiens Clayton Stoner D, Anaheim Ducks Erik Haula F, Minnesota Wild William Karlsson F, Columbus Blue Jackets Trevor Van Riemsdyk D, Chicago Blackhawks Marc-Andre Fleury G, Pittsburgh Penguins Nate Schmidt D, Washington Capitals Y'know in all fairness to Seattle, the picks that Vegas made didn't exactly scream Stanley Cup contender right away either... 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: Whether planned or not, the Krackheads are going to be basement dwellers. Seattle can be proud: crap on their streets, and on the ice. Alfie do you think there will be riots tonight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dazzle said: It doesn't hurt them at all to try and ice a competitive team. They don't even have to spend draft picks; they could've leveraged them with teams that were desperate to protect their own. No matter how you spin this, Ron Francis missed this opportunity. WOW. it hasn't even been officially announced let alone there is still the draft and FA and any side deals the Kraken might also have on the go over the next week or so...too early to call it, but on paper the team looks like an AHL squad compared to who they could've picked. Have to think at least 1 of Johnson/Killorn or Palat are going to be going to Seattle to help TB cap issues, attached to 1 of them could be C. Foote and picks/prospects. Other teams have opened up a lot of cap room for their own players or FA, like NYI and Min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Y'know in all fairness to Seattle, the picks that Vegas made didn't exactly scream Stanley Cup contender right away either... Fleury was at least a foundational piece. Picked up some underrated defensemen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Introducing the Seattle Kraken... Forwards Tyler Pitlick (Arizona Coyotes) Morgan Geekie (Carolina Hurricanes) John Quenneville (Chicago Blackhawks) Joonas Donskoi (Colorado Avalanche Calle Jarnkrok (Nashville Predators) Nathan Bastian (New Jersey Devils) Jordan Eberle (New York Islanders) Colin Blackwell (New York Rangers) Carsen Twarynski (Philadelphia Flyers) Brandon Tanev (Pittsburgh Penguins) Alexander True (San Jose Sharks) Yanni Gourde (Tampa Bay Lightning) Jared McCann (Toronto Maple Leafs) Kole Lind (Vancouver Canucks) Mason Appleton (Winnipeg Jets) Defencemen Haydn Fleury (Anaheim Ducks) Jeremy Lauzon (Boston Bruins) William Borgen (Buffalo Sabres) Mark Giordano (Calgary Flames) Gavin Bayreuther (Columbus Blue Jackets) Adam Larsson (Edmonton Oilers) Jamie Oleksiak (Dallas Stars) Dennis Cholowski (Detroit Red Wings) Kurtis MacDermid (Los Angeles Kings) Carson Soucy (Minnesota Wild) Cale Fleury (Montreal Canadiens) Vince Dunn (St. Louis Blues) Goaltenders Chris Driedger (Florida Panthers) Joey Daccord (Ottawa Senators) Vitek Vanecek (Washington Capitals) Is Seattle going to be playing in the AHL next year? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I think the owners ran out of money. They just spent $650 million and most likely the bank cut them off... So far from the truth, no investor would invest 650m just to get a sports team to then cheap out and have an Ottawa/Arizona type of cap during their 1st year...everyone needs to give it time to see what all transpires in the next week or so. Even if they don't do much else, everyone on here should be HAPPY that we will have 1 weak ass competitor in our division to destroy and gain valuable divisional points! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: So far from the truth, no investor would invest 650m just to get a sports team to then cheap out and have an Ottawa/Arizona type of cap during their 1st year...everyone needs to give it time to see what all transpires in the next week or so. Even if they don't do much else, everyone on here should be HAPPY that we will have 1 weak ass competitor in our division to destroy and gain valuable divisional points! They spent the $650 million before there was a pandemic. Their plans have changed. People who have money aren't stupid. They are going to wait it out until things get back to normal. Nothing else can explain why their roster looks like it belongs in the AHL. Heck the Abbotsford Canucks could give them a run for their money. Edited July 21, 2021 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Thought Jake Bean and Kappo Kahkonen were no brainers. Although Soucy is an underrated pick. But Daccord from Ottawa…. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: They spent the $650 million before there was a pandemic. Their plans have changed. People who have money aren't stupid. They are going to wait it out until things get back to normal. Nothing else can explain why their roster looks like it belongs in the AHL. Heck the Abbotsford Canucks could give them a run for their money. to each their own...In my opinion an investment that big, you want to ice a good team from the get go to get fans interested and coming into the rink and selling out ASAP, not in 2-3 years after the flat cap is over. That is far riskier, especially in an unknown US market where hockey is ranked nowhere near the top of the sports list 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They spent the $650 million before there was a pandemic. Their plans have changed. People who have money aren't stupid. They are going to wait it out until things get back to normal. Nothing else can explain why their roster looks like it belongs in the AHL. Heck the Abbotsford Canucks could give them a run for their money. Might be their GM had no taste for overpaid, past their prime, NHL vets that were made available. Edited July 21, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, HKSR said: Y'know in all fairness to Seattle, the picks that Vegas made didn't exactly scream Stanley Cup contender right away either... I was thinking the same thing - and I think they added some key pieces like Theodore as compensation for not selecting certain guys so that shoe is yet to drop as well. a lot’ve Vegas’ success was due to other GM’s panicking though - they got Reilly Smith from FLA to take Marchessault(!) They got Shea Theodore from Anaheim to take Stoner. They received an extra 1st, 2nd and “had” to take William Karlsson (but also had to take on the Clarkson contract.) They received a 2nd round pick to take Fleury. They received Tuch to take Huala. Like… based on the draft itself Vegas is a decent but much weaker team. It was the side deals that really took off for them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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