Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I hope you guys lower your expectations on Dickson he’s a fringe third Liner on good team 4th liner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Scottydzik said: I hope you guys lower your expectations on Dickson he’s a fringe third Liner on good team 4th liner Based on your opinion? Well, that's ironic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: 30 other gms don’t have gm who’s failed to make hockey trades like this and put there team in cap he’ll and have missed playoffs constantly Please put together how and what you’d propose should have happened, and try to do so sequentially. Please address all info including cap, buyout penalties if any, salary structure, list of who you would have made eligible for the ED, and if necessary who you would have to trade out and to whom and for what. Because truthfully, there are posters here who are doing just that and making valid points both for and against Benning’s moves. You are rambling on without inclusion of any specific detail that would go into and be involved in adjusting this roster in a real-time, real world aspect. Please indulge us and quote facts. It would be incredibly helpful as an educational tool for anyone to try and understand your rationale. Edited July 21, 2021 by RWJC 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, FlyLow_ said: This guy needs to fire his agent. Haha, right? Seriously, though, unless Larsson has changed representation (I haven’t read anything recent on who’s repping him), his agent (last I checked) is JP Barry and CAA. That’s pretty much as good as it gets, in terms of high powered agents and agencies. I have to imagine if Larsson wanted to chase maximum dollars, he would have hit the open market and Barry would have made sure his client got paid. Larsson must value the opportunity in Seattle, whether it’s on-ice and team factors, or off-ice and quality of life/location based, and that’s why he took what seems like a bargain deal to join the expansion Kraken. JP Barry is not exactly known as a soft touch, when it comes to contract negotiations, so I doubt he got taken advantage of. I imagine Larsson got sold on the new start in Seattle and decided this opportunity was worth more than getting max dollars, and his agent obliged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 So will it really be 4x4 in Seattle? Is the topic really correct = it's a confirmed signing? Makes no sense for me for two reasons. 1) why Seattle? There might be reasons i don't know about but Larsson's preference at this point would likely be a contender or an up and coming team imo. There's a difference between having a good team - regardless of whether Seattle plays the long game or try right away - and actually being a team that could make it. 2) why 4x4? Unless the injury issues mentioned are serious - and seems strange that that would surface this late - he for sure would be getting better offers from us as well as other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, J-P said: So will it really be 4x4 in Seattle? Is the topic really correct = it's a confirmed signing? Makes no sense for me for two reasons. 1) why Seattle? There might be reasons i don't know about but Larsson's preference at this point would likely be a contender or an up and coming team imo. There's a difference between having a good team - regardless of whether Seattle plays the long game or try right away - and actually being a team that could make it. 2) why 4x4? Unless the injury issues mentioned are serious - and seems strange that that would surface this late - he for sure would be getting better offers from us as well as other teams. What would make me puke is if there is a side deal with TB to send Larsson there, along with Gourde whom SEA selects in ED, in return for players and cap relief (Johnson, Cirelli, Palat, etc) and picks. I doubt it, but am preparing a barf bag just in case. Edited July 21, 2021 by RWJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, RWJC said: Please put together how and what you’d propose should have happened, and try to do so sequentially. Please address all info including cap, buyout penalties if any, salary structure, list of who you would have made eligible for the ED, and if necessary who you would have to trade out and to whom and for what. Because truthfully, there are posters here who are doing just that and making valid points both for and against Benning’s moves. You are rambling on without inclusion of any specific detail that would go into and be involved in adjusting this roster in a real-time, real world aspect. Please indulge us and quote facts. It would be incredibly helpful as an educational tool for anyone to try and understand your rationale. I trade 2nd lind for graves I trade 4th for Appleton expose Schmidt dare them to take that cap or holtby which was proven they don’t want contract with term instead they elect for macewen Our d after expansion graves Schmidt hughes Myers joulevi rath 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: I hope you guys lower your expectations on Dickson he’s a fringe third Liner on good team 4th liner At it again after all that yesterday. Now i know for sure you're looking for attention / trolling! You don't have anything better to do than beat the same narrative to death?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: What would make me puke is if there is a side deal with TB to send Larsson there, along with Gourde whom SEA selects in ED, in return for players and cap relief (Johnson, Cirelli, Palat, etc) and picks. Maybe the side deal is with Vancouver? Kraken sign and trade Larsson for a package built around Holtby. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: I trade 2nd lind for graves I trade 4th for Appleton expose Schmidt dare them to take that cap or holtby which was proven they don’t want contract with term instead they elect for macewen Our d after expansion graves Schmidt hughes Myers joulevi rath Okay, fair enough, that’s a good start. Thank you. What are the next moves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, RWJC said: Okay, fair enough, that’s a good start. Thank you. What are the next moves? Buy out holtby if no interest buy out Jake virtanen bury Erickson rousell in minors Sign Travis hamonic 2x3.5 sign makeal granlund 3x4.3 roster jt Miller Peterrson boeser granlund horvat Hoglander Pearson Appleton podz motte beagle gadz higmore defense graves Schmidt hughes hamonic rAth Myers juolevi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scottydzik said: Buy out holtby if no interest buy out Jake virtanen bury Erickson rousell in minors Sign Travis hamonic 2x3.5 sign makeal granlund 3x4.3 roster jt Miller Peterrson boeser granlund horvat Hoglander Pearson Appleton podz motte beagle gadz higmore defense graves Schmidt hughes hamonic rAth Myers juolevi Graves belongs nowhere near a top pairing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, Scottydzik said: Buy out holtby if no interest buy out Jake virtanen bury Erickson rousell in minors Sign Travis hamonic 2x3.5 sign makeal granlund 3x4.3 roster jt Miller Peterrson boeser granlund horvat Hoglander Pearson Appleton podz motte beagle gadz higmore defense graves Schmidt hughes hamonic rAth Myers juolevi That’s not all that bad and I appreciate what you’re proposing. I think that D is still a little thin myself, but your numbers seem to work out and adds solid depth to the F group. Not bad, man. When you post like this it’s totally constructive and shows the depth behind the criticism. Like I said, much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, RWJC said: That’s not all that bad and I appreciate what you’re proposing. I think that D is still a little thin myself, but your numbers seem to work out and adds solid depth to the F group. Not bad, man. When you post like this it’s totally constructive and shows the depth behind the criticism. Like I said, much appreciated. But yes I’ll give Benning the benefit of the doubt it’s still early for him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 hours ago, rekker said: They are going to be a better team than the Canucks and it's going to be tough for me to accept. Perhaps it is wise to wait and see how the Canucks fair next season before making such assumptions. Add Pettersson, Podkolzin, Dickinson, D coach Shaw, a couple more pieces and who knows what this team can be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Sean Monahan said: Graves belongs nowhere near a top pairing. True but could rotate him in and out of all 3 lines really. QH Schmidt could be interesting given more time to practice together (none last year for anyone) but I’m still hoping for significant upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, RWJC said: True but could rotate him in and out of all 3 lines really. QH Schmidt could be interesting given more time to practice together (none last year for anyone) but I’m still hoping for significant upgrades. Yes and graves was top pairing with makar I also think graves Myers pairing might work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, RWJC said: True but could rotate him in and out of all 3 lines really. QH Schmidt could be interesting given more time to practice together (none last year for anyone) but I’m still hoping for significant upgrades. Or how about Joulevi 2nd for risto mac 4th for zadarov sign hamonic Schmidt risto hughes hamonic zadarov Myers Rath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) How is Larsson signed by a different team before July 28? Edited July 21, 2021 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Me_ said: How is Larsson signed by a different team before July 28? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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