aliboy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Gudbranson could probably be had for $1M maximum. As a 7th defenseman, he’d be ideal. Huge, hits hard, and is willing and capable of throwing down with anyone in the league. Would probably flourish under a Shaw run defense as a depth player. If they can't find someone else, we do need someone to ride shotgun against teams like Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Gudbranson was not bad for his salary, he was bad when here. He was a guy really wanted to like and seems to tick all the boxes. Big, tough, good reach good leadership qualities and could actually get up to a decent speed in straight line. All sounds great but never comes together. Kind of like the defensive-D to Risto’s offensive D. Players with all the tools that never seem to pull it together into the player they should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I can’t see him moving Schmidt without another trade behind it plus hamonic signed Schmidt to rangers for buch 2nd 2022 mac for zadarov sign hamonic 3x3.75 Sign Jake mcbabe2x3.50 Hughes Hamonic Mcbabe zadarov Rath Myers juolevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Gudbranson was not bad for his salary, he was bad when here. He was a guy really wanted to like and seems to tick all the boxes. Big, tough, good reach good leadership qualities and could actually get up to a decent speed in straight line. All sounds great but never comes together. Kind of like the defensive-D to Risto’s offensive D. Players with all the tools that never seem to pull it together into the player they should be. His salary was an issue too. I personally wouldn't mind Guddy being brought back at an AAV equal to or below $1.125M (that way it could be fully buried in the minors if needed). He can still be reasonably proficient in a depth role and with limited minutes, and irrespective of hockey sense questions, like you said he still has all the tools to be effective. If Guddy can ever make the kinds of adjustments that Luke Schenn made which revived his career, then that would be great to see. I'm not saying the same adjustments as Schenn, just ones that would make Guddy more effective. Just to be clear with the above, unless proven otherwise, I'm advocating Guddy in a 7/8 role and not a regular top-6 role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Gudbranson was not bad for his salary, he was bad when here. He was a guy really wanted to like and seems to tick all the boxes. Big, tough, good reach good leadership qualities and could actually get up to a decent speed in straight line. All sounds great but never comes together. Kind of like the defensive-D to Risto’s offensive D. Players with all the tools that never seem to pull it together into the player they should be. The coaching issues with the defense have been plentiful. I believe that Brad Shaw will institute a much more disciplined and experienced approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Gudbranson was not bad for his salary, he was bad when here. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I could see a Schmidt to NYR for Vitali Kravtsov, 21yr old left handed Russian winger. Has offensive upside. Would fit into our top 9. He would help make Podkolzin more comfortable. If it was a player for player deal we would shed a lot of salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: I could see a Schmidt to NYR for Vitali Kravtsov, 21yr old left handed Russian winger. Has offensive upside. Would fit into our top 9. He would help make Podkolzin more comfortable. If it was a player for player deal we would shed a lot of salary Schmidt ain't gonna get that deal done. We would have to add in our 9th to get Kravtsov and possibly a 3rd back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, HomeBrew said: Schmidt ain't gonna get that deal done. We would have to add in our 9th to get Kravtsov and possibly a 3rd back. Oh man.... don't get me started on Kravtsov. I LOVE this prospect. There's a ridiculous amount of upside there. Would love it if we added him. Edited July 22, 2021 by Herberts Vasiljevs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Gudbranson was not bad for his salary, he was bad when here. He was a guy really wanted to like and seems to tick all the boxes. Big, tough, good reach good leadership qualities and could actually get up to a decent speed in straight line. All sounds great but never comes together. Kind of like the defensive-D to Risto’s offensive D. Players with all the tools that never seem to pull it together into the player they should be. I think Gudbranson would have been a decent defenseman in the Old NHL but the game just changed unfortunately. Too much speed and good overall skating required in the modern game and Gudbranson just can’t hang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NHL'er Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 When is "Very soon" 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, NHL'er said: When is "Very soon" I was just about to ask that myself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 how far away is Juolevi from being a capable parter for Nate? maybe thats the answer instead of moving Nate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: how far away is Juolevi from being a capable parter for Nate? maybe thats the answer instead of moving Nate. Nate is a really good player, so he for sure could play with OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Nate is a really good player, so he for sure could play with OJ. just spitballing but maybe if we give OJ the chance starting the pre-season maybe there's a decent pairing there. It would certainly solve some problems. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: how far away is Juolevi from being a capable parter for Nate? maybe thats the answer instead of moving Nate. I can't say, but I'm not in any rush to lose Schmidt. Just hope that JB does the right thing, however it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This is the year to let the kids play, sign Petey and Hughes, move on. Let OJ play let RBone get some games. Gadj all of them. We should not trade Schmidt this year. Next year we make the moves, this year there’s too many variables in play! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 From the sounds of his interviews, it sounds like Benning will bring in several D-men and wants to re-sign Hamonic. If that's the case, then I can see Rathbone starting in Abbotsford rather than being the 7-8 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Patel Bure said: I think Gudbranson would have been a decent defenseman in the Old NHL but the game just changed unfortunately. Too much speed Yes, speed was an issue both as far as his own footspeed, but in particular with his maneuverability and inability to move the puck from the point efficiently. He basically killed anything resembling a cycle game. I like the guy, but I really don't want him here at any price. He was just awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Nate Schmidt being dealt... very soon... at some time... probably. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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