Putgolzin Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Two wake-ups and it’s still unbelievable that Jimbo dumperooed Loui, Beagle, and Rouselle in this deal. We get out top pairing D, and top six forward, and dump three toxic contracts. The cost? Geunther and a 2022 second. That’s a friggin’ kick ass win for Jimmy! Geunther looks like such a putz too. Klimlovich is better!!! Happy Alfer!!! I also find myself in the win for Jimmy column. I just think you have to remember to include the potential of a toxic contract that we’ve taken on while rejoicing in the three that we shed. I can get over the 9OA because of Garland. Edited July 25, 2021 by nzan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, nzan said: I also find myself in the win for Jimmy column. I just think you have to remember to include the potential of a toxic contract that we’ve taken on while rejoicing in the three that we shed. I can get over the 9OA because of Garland. OEL at 7 per (he just turned 30 last week) is a steal. Guy is going to be great for us. Geunther is a putz. Doubt he is an NHLer. So glad we traded that pick. That whole top ten was full of over hyped craperolla. Best players in this draft are coming out of later picks, like our guy at #41. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: OEL at 7 per (he just turned 30 last week) is a steal. Guy is going to be great for us. Geunther is a putz. Doubt he is an NHLer. So glad we traded that pick. That whole top ten was full of over hyped craperolla. Best players in this draft are coming out of later picks, like our guy at #41. I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost Edited July 25, 2021 by canucklehead44 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost love this part the most, arguing is top notch as always. Just watched the zoom call several Canucks hockey insiders and media had with OEL. Lot's of questions from Kuzma and Drance how OEL plans to turn his game around. Didn't like OEL's body language and have serious doubts that he is the top pairing D-Man Jim spoke about in his press conference. Love your posts. Let's keep coming them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost You don't like dmen who put up 40+ points? 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost this is just to confirm your words: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, stawns said: You don't like dmen who put up 40+ points? when was the last time he put up 40+ points ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, playboi19 said: A one day contract for Loui to retire a Canuck. Can't wait for his Jersey retirement! 1 day x 6 million for old times sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashian Kassian Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost I see everyone saying this, that we compressed our window. But I would make that argument the other way. How many more years of Bo Horvats prime are you willing to waste? Horvat is a win now player. And Id argue Demko is too. Jim Benning is right when he says the team needs to take the next step. The core players are good right now, they have runway, but it's time to get them into the playoffs and growing. And I think OEL will give us more than 2 years of good play. It's a risk in some ways but there's also a big upside to him. Edited July 25, 2021 by Smashian Kassian 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not - OEL at 7 per is one of the worst contracts in the league unless you mean by steal he is stealing money from ownership - 30 is not young and he has 6 years remaining. There were only 25 dmen 32 and older to play 20+ games last year, 12 who were 34 and older - How can you even say the top 10 sucks, Guenther won’t make the NHL and later picks are better - that logic makes no sense. There are no guarantees either way but stats and probabilities indicate more likely than not he will be an NHL player OEL isn’t the same player he was. Just like Eriksson wasn’t when joined the Canucks. This trade should make us better in the short term for sure and an incredible long term cost He's been a remarkably consistent 0.5 ppg player over his entire career, even with the gong show of a team they had last year. "one of the worst contacts" - what metics are you using for this? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: love this part the most, arguing is top notch as always. Just watched the zoom call several Canucks hockey insiders and media had with OEL. Lot's of questions from Kuzma and Drance how OEL plans to turn his game around. Didn't like OEL's body language and have serious doubts that he is the top pairing D-Man Jim spoke about in his press conference. Love your posts. Let's keep coming them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tas Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: when was the last time he put up 40+ points ? the last time there was a full nhl season. he was also on pace for it this past year, and on pace for 37 the year before. 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: when was the last time he put up 40+ points ? In 2018-19 he put up 44 in 81 games In 2019-2020, 30 in 66 (37 point pace) In 2020-21, 24 in 46 (43 point pace) 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 What I don't understand is if he's the worst defensemen in the league, why didn't the coyotes throw him in the press box? That would surely open up his ntc? That would also give their team a better chance to win? We didn't care Erikson was making 6m. If he wasn't helping us win, he was sitting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I see everyone saying this, that we compressed our window. But I would make that the argument the other way. How many more years of Bo Horvats prime are you willing to waste? Horvat is a win now player. And Id argue Demko is too. Jim Benning is right when he says the team needs to take the next step. The core players are good right now, they have runway, but it's time to get them into the playoffs and growing. And I think OEL will give us more than 2 years of good play. It's a risk in some ways but there's also a big upside to him. Absolutely right........this is Bo's team and to hold off trying to get better any longer is a $&!#e thing to do to him and tye other players in their prime. I love that JB is saying the time is right now 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: this is just to confirm your words: As per usual a fancy stats page tabulated by someone who has likely never been on skates in his life. Hockey isn't baseball, you can't pinpoint and individuals effectiveness in a team sport with stats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: when was the last time he put up 40+ points ? Was on pace for 43 points over 82 last year..... Oh you conveniently forgot it was a shorted season? Shocker! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: when was the last time he put up 40+ points ? 3 seasons ago. Was well on pace the last couple years as well. It seems people aren’t taking into account the absolute dog $&!# team he has been playing on, or the coaching change that seemed to ruin a lot of their players. Is this trade going to suck in 3 years? 100% But let’s not act like this guy sucks. He will probably be our best dman for a year or two until Quinn realizes there are two ends of the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 OEL was a stud for Arizona in the bubble. 23 min/game. 28 hits in 9 games. He’s going to be energized and play great with us. This guy is a number one D, and a very good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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