SergioMomesso Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So Ballard, Raymond and a 1st is off the table? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Strap Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, sonoman said: Yes, along with please and thank you. Other subjects included washing hands, sharing, milk and cookies, reading stories and afternoon naps. That’s awesome. You are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Lol search Garland and Stone on youtube you will know why Benning got him. With OEL involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, vancan2233 said: Nope, has not, complete lie. Look up the stats. He has been putting up the same number for the last 6 years. 2014-15 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 23 20 43 40 -18 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 Arizona Coyotes NHL 75 21 34 55 96 -6 -- -- -- -- -- 2016-17 Arizona Coyotes NHL 79 12 27 39 48 -25 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 14 28 42 44 -28 -- -- -- -- -- 2018-19 Arizona Coyotes NHL 81 14 30 44 52 -16 -- -- -- -- -- 2019-20 Arizona Coyotes NHL 66 9 21 30 38 -3 9 1 3 4 8 2020-21 Arizona Coyotes NHL 46 3 21 24 40+ point D man, and is going to continue that for another 3+ years. Arizona did not have(or ever had during OEL time) the top end players Vancouver has. You will see him get back to the 50 point mark for the next couple years in Van. He’s a twenty point at even strength D. Hughes is the first PP guy. OEL PP production will fall. If he gets deployed in hard matchups like Benning suggests he will, his production will fall at ES as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I still don’t understand why so many people are framing the salary trade-off as a win for the Canucks. Beagle’s, Louie’s and Roussel’s contracts. are. expiring. OEL’s contract is a whopping $7 million/5 years (after Arizona’s cap retention). It’s not that difficult to understand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 I love how some fans put so much value in a first round pick. Like that’s going to be the difference of us being a contender in 5 years. Here’s the thing, if we’re not a contender before 5 years we’re probably already in another rebuild anyways. The time to go for it is now. We have the core in place. 2 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 OEL wears #23 like Edler too. Here's him on ice for the last game vs Sedins. Big hugs to the twins at the end. Lots of respect. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCustodian Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, guntrix said: I still don’t understand why so many people are framing the salary trade-off as a win for the Canucks. Beagle’s, Louie’s and Roussel’s contracts. are. expiring. OEL’s contract is a whopping $7 million/5 years (after Arizona’s cap retention). It’s not that difficult to understand. They're buying Benning's sales pitch that OEL is a top-pairing defenseman who just had a "tough couple years" versus another Myers. Should have just flipped the 2nd for Garland. Edited July 24, 2021 by TheCustodian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: Players that were useful at one time get older, injured, and become surplus to needs. It seems foolish to expect them to play at the same high level forever. Not going to pretend that they are still useful, and sing their praises. That’s the way of the world in professional sports. Except Eriksson at 31, Beagle at 33, and Roussel at 29 (when they signed the deals) were far more closer to "past their best" than they were "in their prime". Eriksson was a fine risk, given he was a top 6 forward and played a great two-way game. It was indefensible to have signed Beagle and Roussel to their contracts, however. We committed too much money and term to those bottom-six guys to provide "mentorship". That's foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Signed into the forum for the first time all year because of this trade. While I'm pleased Eriksson, Beagle, and Roussel are gone, nobody wants to see a first round pick surrendered + absorbing a new albatross contract. I've never been particularly keen on OEL, but Connor Garland is a very, very exciting acquisition. The overwhelming narrative about this draft was it was underwhelming and very difficult to predict, due to the world. So we'll see. Edited July 24, 2021 by zzbottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, J-Strap said: You really ought to listen to your shrink and stop fantasizing about another person’s strap. You have chosen the right username for yourself man You know what a J-Strap is ? A nutcase 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, guntrix said: I still don’t understand why so many people are framing the salary trade-off as a win for the Canucks. Beagle’s, Louie’s and Roussel’s contracts. are. expiring. OEL’s contract is a whopping $7 million/5 years (after Arizona’s cap retention). It’s not that difficult to understand. We gained 5 mil in cap, gained a top 4 defender, and a top 6 forward. OELs deal is no riskier than the deal Jones and Hamilton will get. Whats not to like? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, guntrix said: I still don’t understand why so many people are framing the salary trade-off as a win for the Canucks. Beagle’s, Louie’s and Roussel’s contracts. are. expiring. OEL’s contract is a whopping $7 million/5 years (after Arizona’s cap retention). It’s not that difficult to understand. Cause eventually the flat cap will end, and by then 7mil for OEL won't really be that bad. It's not that difficult to understand. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 At least the new guys don’t have to pay anybody to get their numbers they had in Arizona. And only 2 people who bought Beagle jerseys will have to get the name bars changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Scottydzik said: If Benning ate all of eks contract he needs to be fired He will not be retained beyond his current contract - GUARANTEED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: You realize OEL was miserable in Arizona right? You think he was giving it a full 100% last couple years? He was given a ton of Norris votes not that long ago. He wants to come HERE and will play WAY better. I would love to bet anyone this. Having the top 6 forward makes this even more sweeter. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: We gained 5 mil in cap, gained a top 4 defender, and a top 6 forward. OELs deal is no riskier than the deal Jones and Hamilton will get. Whats not to like? Agree on Jones. Do not agree at all on Hamilton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: We gained 5 mil in cap, gained a top 4 defender, and a top 6 forward. OELs deal is no riskier than the deal Jones and Hamilton will get. Whats not to like? I haven’t said that I’m against this trade precisely because it hinges on which OEL shows up. But that cap would’ve been gained next year regardless. Is what we paid the Yotes to take 3 1-year contracts off our hands worth it when we could’ve just bided our time? We’re certainly not contending this coming season. Edited July 24, 2021 by guntrix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tower102 Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 As soon as we trade for a player, apparently they suck and are just cap dumps... TB with Miller, and now OEL with AZ. Is he overpaid? Yes. Is he a top 4 dman with the possibility of regaining #1 dman form? Yes. Pretty sure this is a way better deal than was speculated last summer. Pretty sure we all assumed a 1st to get rid of Eriksson based on past deals was market value. Pretty sure we would have been ok trading a 2nd and 7th to dump Beagle and Roussell. Pretty sure we would have been over the moon to take a free Garland and OEL. A lot of people here wanted Risto. OEL is better than Risto, and not much more expensive after the 12% retained. Risto netted a slightly worse 1st, a 2nd and Hagg... I get that Risto is younger but.... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Beagle Eriksson and Roussel gone. All in one deal. That is JB killing it. No reason to nit pick this deal. OEL top 2F and Garland top 6 F. Ya it's a game changer like the Erhoff deal back in the day. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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