Elias Pettersson Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, viking mama said: Team-D needs to be solved, signed, sealed & delivered-up to some regular ice-time together, in order to become a synchronized machine. D-men are the heart of any hockey team. The goalies, are more like the immune system. If the D-men don’t function well, there is virtually very little game or resistance to offered-up. I agree. I don't think Benning is done yet. Look for a Schmidt and Holtby trade and a Virtanen buyout. We need to go all in now. A 4C and 2 RHD is what we need for our team to be complete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I don't see Edmonton making the playoffs in an 82 game season with their AHL defense, goaltending, and bottom 6. I think we're a shoo-in along with Vegas, and Seattle takes the third spot. Now that we're doing this, we need to be moving Holtby and hopefully Schmidt and going all-in. I agree, except McDavid's 130-150 points might get them there along with Draisaitl's 100+ points in the weak Pacific division. Of course, Smith may falter then they are screwed. They lost Larsson and did not replace him. Keith is over the hill. Is Klefbom coming back? A lot of question marks on that team, they might as well miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cromeslab said: He can refuse no? I'm not refusing $10 million... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SergioMomesso Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 Like someone posted earlier. Better to pay 7.6 million to watch OEL play than 6 million to watch LE21 eat popcorn, 3 Million to watch Roussel lose fights and take stupid penalties and another 3 to watch Beagle break his arm blocking a shot in a 5-1 game 2 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, khay said: I agree, except McDavid's 130-150 points might get them there along with Draisaitl's 100+ points in the weak Pacific division. Of course, Smith may falter then they are screwed. They lost Larsson and did not replace him. Keith is over the hill. Is Klefbom coming back? A lot of question marks on that team, they might as well miss the playoffs. An over the hill Keith is still the only Dman they have who has any hope of playing like an NHLer besides Nurse. Smith played over his head in a condensed season, and Koskinen is so bad that Ayers would be an upgrade over that sieve. McDiver and Divesitel also refuse to backcheck, so a lot of the benefit from those points balance out due to their prioritizing personal stats over winning. Our forwards are going to love playing against those bums. Edited July 24, 2021 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, bbllpp said: If EP gets offer sheeted 8-9x8 the extra 4.75 cap from this deal goes a long way. We’ll need to make room but the impact will be a lot less. i.e. we pay EP and QH before the rest with peace of mind We can also flip Schmidt now without our backs against the cap wall Jimbo's on record saying that what ever the offer sheet, he'll match. Not only do I think that Petey wouldn't sign one but any GM who writes one will look like a heel since JB's declaration. So, I'd be very surprised if it happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kobayashi Maru Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, khay said: I agree, except McDavid's 130-150 points might get them there along with Draisaitl's 100+ points in the weak Pacific division. Of course, Smith may falter then they are screwed. They lost Larsson and did not replace him. Keith is over the hill. Is Klefbom coming back? A lot of question marks on that team, they might as well miss the playoffs. I don’t think Klefbom can even lift his arms up so probably not. I bet they just put Wallstedt in net to start the year because I don’t think they develop their prospects anyways. edit: thought Edm took Wallstedt but they traded the pick to avoid getting a franchise goalie. Makes sense. Edited July 24, 2021 by Kobayashi Maru 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 This deal will be looking either very good or very bad in a couple of seasons. I don't think there is much of a middle ground. We have to hope OELs struggles were mostly due to being on a bad team and that Garland continues to trend into a top 6 player. Even if Larsson can be Edler like it's good. If not then we essentially got another Loui on defense and another eventual overpaid 3rd liner. I'm cautiously optimistic so I'm going to say it's going to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, Kobayashi Maru said: I don’t think Klefbom can even lift his arms up so probably not. I bet the just put Wallstedt in net to start the year because I don’t think they develop their prospects anyways. Wallstedt went to Minnesota not Deadmonton, they didn't want a better G of the future apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, SergioMomesso said: Like someone posted earlier. Better to pay 7.6 million to watch OEL play than 6 million to watch LE21 eat popcorn, 3 Million to watch Roussel lose fights and take stupid penalties and another 3 to watch Beagle break his arm blocking a shot in a 5-1 game After the LE and Roussel comments I was concerned you were gonna disrespect Beagle - but you nailed exactly the kind of guy he is - which is why I love him so much. I'm just waiting for the follow up deal where Arizona sends him back to us for a player/prospect at the margins of our lineup - with cap retained. Oh, would I laugh. One thing that I doubt has been mentioned - Beagle has a 5 team NTC that he probably could have exercised here (hard to imagine many worse destinations than the present Coyotes) - but he appears to have been willing to accomodate the club here....character guy. 1 1 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, JC2 said: This deal will be looking either very good or very bad in a couple of seasons. I don't think there is much of a middle ground. We have to hope OELs struggles were mostly due to being on a bad team and that Garland continues to trend into a top 6 player. Even if Larsson can be Edler like it's good. If not then we essentially got another Loui on defense and another eventual overpaid 3rd liner. I'm cautiously optimistic so I'm going to say it's going to be good. God I would hate to see when you’re depressed… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Wallstedt went to Minnesota not Deadmonton, they didn't want a better G of the future apparently Oh haha missed that. Guess it’s Smith forever! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, oldnews said: The most hits Edler ever threw in a season was 157 - OEL topped that 3 times. Edler's threw 143 hits and 127 in his next highest totals. OEL topped 127 x 7 times. OEL has more hits than Edler the past three seasons But if you listen to some folks on here - he's "soft" LOEL. And can't skate / is "slow". But most people - who have eyes - consider him a highly mobile, smooth/fluid skater. He's outscored Edler 98 - 75 over the past three seasons. He's done so while producing on the powerplay - while Edler has had far more productive forwards to play with 5on5. There is a lot of nuance in 'comparing' these two - I'd consider Edler's 'underlying' numbers better than OEL's over that period - but at the same time, I'd consider Edler's partners over that time to be better than OEL's. The point here is not really a 'comparison' of the two - but to point out that OEL is going to be a slightly (1+ million) higher cap hit than Edler over the same period of their careers (30-35). At age 30 - Edler had the worst season of his career - actually 3 of 4 seasons in that stretch he had 20, 21, 22 pt seasons - all of which would be career worst production for OEL. OEL just had a season where he was more than a .5ppg player - and yet is allegedly the worst contract in the NHL - a league with contracts like Gardiner's, Skinner's, Ladd's, LE's, etc.... Some people just try too hard to sandbag good players. Edler went through the same thing here - he was a favorite whipping boy for years - but has been one fo the best defensemen in franchise history... I still can't believe that some posters can look at a HERO chart and use it as gospel to rate the performance of a player. I remember the time when GM's didn't have HERO charts. They used to evaluate players based on the eye test. Actually watching them play. If you actually watch OEL play you will know he's not a bottom pairing Dman, he's not soft, and he's not a slow skater. You can even ask his teammates and they will tell you the same thing. OEL is a better all around version of Edler. At $7.25 million that's only $1.25 million more than we were paying Edler at the same age. Edler is still playing at 35, so what's not to believe that OEL can also play until age 35 or longer? He can play out his contract. The Sedins did, so did Edler. No reason at all why OEL can't play until he is 36 and also play at a high level until his mid 30's. With Hughes in the lineup he won't be expected to run the first unit PP either so that will take alot of pressure off of him to be the go to guy. He won't even be the captain. And he will love Vancouver and love playing with Petey and Hoglander and hanging out with the Sedins after the games. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, khay said: I agree, except McDavid's 130-150 points might get them there along with Draisaitl's 100+ points in the weak Pacific division. Of course, Smith may falter then they are screwed. They lost Larsson and did not replace him. Keith is over the hill. Is Klefbom coming back? A lot of question marks on that team, they might as well miss the playoffs. McJesus might have to break Gretzky's record next season if Edmonton has any hope of winning games with their AHL defence and goaltending... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Well that was 30 seconds wasted. Can’t believe I pressed play 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Squamfan said: What kind of cat do you have Squamfan? That looks like a pretty nice setup behind you. Also, stop drinking Coke, it's not good for you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) I'm still at work and was following the trade via Twitter. Il be interested in seeing the CDC reaction once the details were announced. Ballsy trade-I like it. I'm hoping OEL was pulling a James harden and rips it up. Garland is going to be a gem. Gotta think TG is doing cartwheels because he has a ton of options now. Edited July 24, 2021 by Angry Goose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singing chef Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: Garland is a great pickup. Canucks now have a legit top six in Miller, EP, Boeser, Garland, Bo, and Hogs. I assume Hogs can also play LW?Third line is now legit in Pearson, JD, and Podz.Still need to work on the fourth line but given the lack of CAP JB should stay within the lines finally hahaThe forward group was poor last year and that hurt the team defence. With a better forward group and Demko in his second full season, I expect a better overall system (Shaw), which should help the defense.Defense is now OEL, Hughes, Rathbone, Schmidt, Juolevi, and Myers. They still need add another piece. I think the should keep Schmidt...tell him to suck it up and that he only gets traded when his value improves haha OEL is a risk but hopefully he regains his love for the game over the next two years 5 ld and 1 rd. Plus, OEL, Hughes and Rathbone play PP, all LD. The team NEEDS a couple of RD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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