koregen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Let's just make sure we get all of our guys signed, the Kraken has a lot of tentacles and Petersson might be a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucard Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Tbh, question whether this guy IS a legit, and/or devoted Canucks-backer. His channel is successful; but like a politician, seems he wants to be everything to everyone. The old 'please all the p, all the time' adage... Hard for me to trust the opinion of one who claims the Canucks & Broon-goons as two of his fav teams. Is there ANY franchise a self-respecting Van loyalist hates more, over this past decade? If one claims to back a team, just don't get how they should constantly denigrate/diminish the one who has built it(for nearly a decade), as JB has been doing. Throwing shade from such a platform(or HF, reddit, twitter, etc...) appears to me a convenient ploy to play things both ways. But I don't know, don't really follow such channels too closely. If one really dislikes the GM/direction of their fav team, why not find a hobby to burn off a few yrs? But then, to each, their own, as they say. He has some points: 1.Why as a team which does not make playoffs we always trade picks? 2.Why pay so much with picks to take a big contract? especially in flat cap era? Edited July 24, 2021 by alucard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koregen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) The future is now, as hard as it is to loose a 1st round pick the future is now 4+ years. As long as OEL shows up to plays hockey unlike Eriksson, we are looking a lot stronger. Edited July 24, 2021 by koregen 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, sassbs said: I hope We keep Schmidt now 100% agree. Schmidt plays best on the right side, and OEL has the defensive awareness that comes with being a top PK unit guy. I'm thinking he makes a perfect partner for Schmidt, and they make each other a whole lot better. Savard to play with Hughes, and lets Hughes run up the score b/c teams are busy trying to match up against OEL and Schmidt. OEL-Schmidt Hughes-Savard Juolevi-Myers Rathbone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Shannon is great as a source for comprehensive nhl news. His takes are more level headed than most out there except when it comes to the Canucks. He is one of those disgruntled old timer fan that has just given up on the team and just defaults to whatever the team does is bad. Called him out a few times and he got really mad at me. That said, this was posted before we knew all the 1st tier players are gone at 9th. So his take was based on is getting one the top centers or d man and he is also suspectable to the believe that the team with the most cap space and picks wins the cup. It's hard for me to give too much credence to such channels. If I tried to run one like his, it'd prob be shut down in a freeken' day. I don't trust how the NHL runs their biz(which I state here regularly), & it'd be the point I'd constantly try to hammer home. When folks(and/or media) try to cover large entities like a pro sports league, they must either be fully believing(or apologists), or TPTB won't leave such a platform up for long. He seems like a decent enough bloke, but I'll only devote leisure time to analysts(of any pastime, topic or realm) that are hard-hitting skeptics. We are living in a period of corruption & media-wh*res, thus require insights from folks who are willing to look under carpets! Edited July 24, 2021 by Nuxfanabroad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, alucard said: He has some points: 1.Why as a team which does not make playoffs we always trade picks? 2.Why pay so much with picks to take a big contract? especially in flat cap era? Why has a team got rid of so much dead cap? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koregen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 If Schmidt wants to go that's fine, but honestly I like him and Hamonic moving forward. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cromeslab Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 Everyone cries about dead cap,we get rid of most of it,people still complain.lol cdc don’t ever change....... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nave Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 Wow, he actually did it. Offloaded three horrible contracts of guys who can no longer play... But, to get a top 4 defenseman and top 6 forward while doing it? Wow, wow. When I found out the news at work, I decided to reserve judgment until I saw how the draft played out after my shift. None of the guys I really wanted were still there at 9. So, I feel really good about the trade. Benning bet that none of the top 4 D would fall to us, and won. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sean Monahan Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/177208/conor-garland check this out: 68 games in 2019/2020 : 39 pts 49 games in 2020/2021: 39 pts one of the best right wingers in the NHL past 2 season with 39 points , sorry man ? http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&seasonFrom=20192020&seasonTo=20202021&gameType=2&position=R&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=points,goals,assists&page=0&pageSize=50 those 78 points make him 23rd overall in scoring for RW’s in the last two seasons playing on a bad team. That’s a helluva nice piece for our second line. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koregen Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 All 3 of the guys we just offloaded were brought in for "Leadership", we just acquired an actual leader... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucard Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Cromeslab said: Why has a team got rid of so much dead cap? No, all the cap we traded was only for ONE year. we now have a lengthy big contract, my problem is giving up too many picks. JB always trades his 2nd rounders. Hoglander was a 2nd rounder, at least keep the 2nd round pick. Edited July 24, 2021 by alucard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nave said: Wow, he actually did it. Offloaded three horrible contracts of guys who can no longer play... But, to get a top 4 defenseman and top 6 forward while doing it? Wow, wow. When I found out the news at work, I decided to reserve judgment until I saw how the draft played out after my shift. None of the guys I really wanted were still there at 9. So, I feel really good about the trade. Benning bet that none of the top 4 D would fall to us, and won. Yet if you visited HFboards, you'd guess he boiled minced rabbits in a pot, ala Glenn Close... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeeeergh Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Nave said: Wow, he actually did it. Offloaded three horrible contracts of guys who can no longer play... But, to get a top 4 defenseman and top 6 forward while doing it? Wow, wow. When I found out the news at work, I decided to reserve judgment until I saw how the draft played out after my shift. None of the guys I really wanted were still there at 9. So, I feel really good about the trade. Benning bet that none of the top 4 D would fall to us, and won. yup yup yup honestly with this move, im now a huge JB fan. He drafted an incredible core for us, and now he's undone his bad contracts in 1 move. I don't care what anyone says, OEL is a beast. He played on the PP, PK, matchup minutes, and was over 0.5 ppg playing disgruntled for a terrible team. Garland makes our top 6 incredibly dangerous, and our third line gets a lot better with Pearson (presumably) and Dickinson. I imagine that's also a good spot for Podkolzin to play if he's ready to make the leap. Miller-Petey-Boes Hogs-Horvat-Garland Pearson-Dickinson-Podz Motte-4C-Highmore OEL-Schmidt Hughes-BigRHD(savard?) Juolevi-Myers Rathbone That's a team that's ready to contend imo. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Devron44 said: Was just enjoying seeing a couple names on this here.. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes That is a dumpster fire of contracts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, alucard said: No, all the cap we traded was only for ONE year. we now have a lengthy big contract, my problem is giving up too many picks. JB always trades his 2nd rounders. Hoglander was a 2nd rounder, at least keep the 2nd rounder. Honestly the picks really don't matter in this deal. In an average year, you may hit on 2/7 of your picks. Yes we traded away picks, but we got a guaranteed roster player, who also happens to be a bona fide top 6. We basically traded Dylan Guenther away for Conor Garland. Take that deal any day and run fast before the other team changes their mind haha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, alucard said: No, all the cap we traded was only for ONE year. we now have a lengthy big contract, my problem is giving up too many picks. JB always trades his 2nd rounders. Hoglander was a 2nd rounder, at least keep the 2nd rounder. Yeah. Think most people's problem with Jim is he ain't fleecing anyone in trades. Comes with the personality. Jim probably prefers to greese the wheels and not burn any bridges whereas most fans want their GM to go for the kill, but as a process destroy their relationship with the other guy for all future moves. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Now the real hard work of signing everyone and getting them to fit, Schmidt and Hamonic included. JBs been a great drafter and great trader but his signings have been questionable sometimes so let's hope he manages to get everyone in, don't want to forget anyone. I think we still have to move cap, whether it be a Holtby trade ideally, Virtanen buyout or (hopefully not) a Schmidt trade, it's going to be tight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucard Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Honestly the picks really don't matter in this deal. In an average year, you may hit on 2/7 of your picks. Yes we traded away picks, but we got a guaranteed roster player, who also happens to be a bona fide top 6. We basically traded Dylan Guenther away for Conor Garland. Take that deal any day and run fast before the other team changes their mind haha But whole strategy of Benning always trading away picks is what i am talking about. what happened to build through the draft. trading away this year 1st round I get because it was a covid year. but he always trades picks, I do not like that. 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: Yeah. Think most people's problem with Jim is he ain't fleecing anyone in trades. Comes with the personality. Jim probably prefers to greese the wheels and not burn any bridges whereas most fans want their GM to go for the kill, but as a process destroy their relationship with the other guy for all future moves. Exactly, he is not Yzerman savvy type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dats hockey Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Tbh, question whether this guy IS a legit, and/or devoted Canucks-backer. His channel is successful; but like a politician, seems he wants to be everything to everyone. The old 'please all the p, all the time' adage... Hard for me to trust the opinion of one who claims the Canucks & Broon-goons as two of his fav teams. Is there ANY franchise a self-respecting Van loyalist hates more, over this past decade? If one claims to back a team, just don't get how they should constantly denigrate/diminish the one who has built it(for nearly a decade), as JB has been doing. Throwing shade from such a platform(or HF, reddit, twitter, etc...) appears to me a convenient ploy to play things both ways. But I don't know, don't really follow such channels too closely. If one really dislikes the GM/direction of their fav team, why not find a hobby to burn off a few yrs? But then, to each, their own, as they say. I like his opinions normally. But Jesus he talking about OEL like it’s dead cap common… I’m going to laugh when OEL has a career year next year 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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