PistolPete13 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, Dazzle said: We won't get a return because he has negative value. He's gonna get bought out this season, plain and simple. He won't play this season with us, guaranteed. Guilty or not, the allegations sealed his fate because he was basically on his last straw with the Canucks. Trade to Mtl? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I didn't say it's likely....I said it's possible. The organization is in a tough spot because if the allegations are false, it's not supporting your players. To be fair, I am guessing the allegations are real but there is a process for these things. A buyout is very likely but a trade is also possible. JV playing is also possible though. No, it's not possible at all. We don't even have space for JV to return. A buyout is happening 100 percent. Believing otherwise is just ignoring the fact that a) he's not been good enough b) he's a PR disaster right now. The allegations may or may not be real, but JV's reputation is tarnished regardless. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of what JV and the girl is claiming. No one's going to know the details because discussing it publicly will only hurt her case. No one should say JV is a rapist because there's no proof. Yet no one should say that victim is lying either. We don't know either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PistolPete13 said: Trade to Mtl? With the backlash from the Logan Maillloux draft, I'm damn sure they won't want Virtanen now lol. Edited July 25, 2021 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: With the backlash from the Logan Maillloux draft, I'm damn sure they won't want Virtanen now lol. The Habs took Kass off our hands back in the day. Plus Virt could take Mailloux under his wing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dazzle said: No, it's not possible at all. We don't even have space for JV to return. A buyout is happening 100 percent. Believing otherwise is just ignoring the fact that a) he's not been good enough b) he's a PR disaster right now. The allegations may or may not be real, but JV's reputation is tarnished regardless. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of what JV and the girl is claiming. No one's going to know the details because discussing it publicly will only hurt her case. No one should say JV is a rapist because there's no proof. Yet no one should say that victim is lying either. We don't know either way. The best places for JV are lost outposts of NHL expansion like Carolina, Florida and Arizona. But Buffalo…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Me_ said: The best places for JV are lost outposts of NHL expansion like Carolina, Florida and Arizona. But Buffalo…. Florida and Carolina are good now. Montreal and Chicago are the organizations where trash people go nowadays. Cant think of bigger P.O.S’s than Marc Bergevin and Stan Bowman right now. They’ll happily take on Jake Virtanen if we offered him for free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 hours ago, EddieVedder said: I still wouldve paid Tanev the 4. He was the heart of this defense. He was a huge peice of it no argument there, it's just not a fair comparison Between him and OEL, different players with different skillsets. Tanev missed alot of hockey too, that was likey a big contribution to him hitting free agency. $4.5 million doesn't seem like alot of money for a guy like him but when you take into account injury history and fairly one dimensional I can see why they didn't resign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harold Drunken Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Dats hockey said: After reading everything OEL and Garland have said so far. They seem over the moon about being outta the desert OEL has had Vancouver on his list for a few years now, Garland is on record saying he believes the Canucks are one of the bright up and coming young teams in the league. They both sound very happy to be part of this team and that should make people pretty pumped. OEL is only 30 and still has some really good hockey in him. 2 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, Quantum said: Florida and Carolina are good now. Montreal and Chicago are the organizations where trash people go nowadays. Cant think of bigger P.O.S’s than Marc Bergevin and Stan Bowman right now. They’ll happily take on Jake Virtanen if we offered him for free. If they want him, they can claim him on waivers - he has to pass thru unconditional waivers before being bought out. But then they have him at his full year's salary and cap hit. Better to let Vancouver buy him out then offer him a $750k (or whatever) "show me" contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 This trade makes perfect sense... In: Garland #83 Out: Beagle #83 In: OEL #23 Out: Edler #23 In: Hoglander with his old #21 Out: Loui #21 It's almost like Benning planned the whole thing... Well, almost... In: Tryamkin #88 Out: Schmidt #88 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Me_ Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) Just so we’re clear… last year… Beagle, Roussel and Eriksson played a combined 72 games, scored 2 goals, had 8 assists for 10 points. Ekman-Larsson and Garland played a combined 95 games, scored 15 goals, assisted 48 times, for 63 points. Just that one old tried and true way of measuring a trade. On the question of age: Roussel - 31 years old Beagle - 35 years old Eriksson - 36 years old Ekman-Larsson - 30 years old Garland - 25 years old Fabulous trade. Edited July 25, 2021 by Me_ 3 1 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnny Torts Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 For those with continuing arguments about his age, he’s only 4 years older than our captain Bo Horvat. He’s also 7 years younger than Mark Giordano. I know math is tough sometimes and heck, pulling out a calculator isn’t easy when we all have so many poop shooters downloaded, but I thought I would just put this here. He was also the captain of a team where the previous captain, of said team, was Shane Doan. Then there’s Conor freakin Garland. Our “Amazon” version of Johnny Hockey, who is pretty freaking good. Garland is a stud. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Me_ said: Just so we’re clear… last year… Beagle, Roussel and Eriksson played a combined 72 games, scored 2 goals, had 8 assists for 10 points. Ekman-Larsson and Garland played a combined 95 games, scored 15 goals, assisted 48 times, for 63 points. Just that one old tried and true way of measuring a trade. Fabulous trade. JB literally killed 4 birds with one stone on this trade. It was lights out 2 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I mean lets be real honest here would we rather go into the future with garland at 25 or taffoli at 30 repeats his career year for 3 more years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 hours ago, appleboy said: 7 years ago the fan base wanted and were ready for a rebuild. Where would we be right now if they had of done that? I don't know? Do you? Do you have a crystal ball? Improvement is rarely a linear progression. Certain posters like to cry about holding onto assets too long, bringing up the Sedins and Edler as players who should have been traded, conveniently forgetting many had NTCs (thanks to Gillis, not Benning) and would not waive. Yes there were mistakes made along the way. Benning was learning on the job. Get over it already and quit crying about the past already. There's a new franchise down the I-5 you may want to cheer for instead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I mean lets be real honest here would we rather go into the future with garland at 25 or taffoli at 30 repeats his career year for 3 more years? Oh man… MTL Schmidt VAN Toffoli And I still am a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Lets be honest we needed a change and spark in our Defense as much as OEL needed a change. We by no means coulda went into next season with the same d core we had last season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Me_ said: Oh man… MTL Schmidt VAN Toffoli And I still am a fan. NYI 2022 first Nate Schmidt Van Noah Dobson I’ll let myself out 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, buddhahoodlum said: I don't know? Do you? Do you have a crystal ball? Improvement is rarely a linear progression. Certain posters like to cry about holding onto assets too long, bringing up the Sedins and Edler as players who should have been traded, conveniently forgetting many had NTCs (thanks to Gillis, not Benning) and would not waive. Yes there were mistakes made along the way. Benning was learning on the job. Get over it already and quit crying about the past already. There's a new franchise down the I-5 you may want to cheer for instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: NYI 2022 first Nate Schmidt Van Noah Dobson I’ll let myself out Id do it tbh lol wed be the LA Rams of the NHL Edited July 25, 2021 by Bertuzzipunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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