Attila Umbrus Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 1:42 PM, King Heffy said: He hasn't shown any indication of a poor work ethic. And has yet to make any poor restaurant investments either... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 11:47 PM, coryberg said: Loui was a 3rd liner from day one. Oel is a top pairing dman from day one. If you think OEL is a top pairing dman I have some surprises for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 7 hours ago, JohnTavares said: If you think OEL is a top pairing dman I have some surprises for you If you don't think OEL is one of our top 2 dmen I've got a surprise for you... its called an eye doctor. Enjoy! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 6:27 AM, Timråfan said: You mean in Greens system? How good is Green as a coach? Loui sucks you can’t blame it on the coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 9:42 AM, coryberg said: If you don't think OEL is one of our top 2 dmen I've got a surprise for you... its called an eye doctor. Enjoy! Don’t feed it, and it will go away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Loui sucks you can’t blame it on the coach. Who wake you up? Toothferry? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) On 12/4/2021 at 1:54 AM, JohnTavares said: If you think OEL is a top pairing dman I have some surprises for you OEL is a top pairing dman. Absolutely. He looked very good to start the year and has maybe regressed a little. But pretty much the entire team has so let's be reasonable. Happy to have a smooth skating vet like him and I'm suprised by his physicality actually. Garland and OEL are not the problems this year, not at all. Coaching, EP, BB, Hamonic, special teams, waiver losses. Those are the problems. Edited December 5, 2021 by rekker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, rekker said: OEL is a top pairing dman. Absolutely. He looked very good to start the year and has maybe regressed a little. But pretty much the entire team has so let's be reasonable. Happy to have a smooth skating vet like him and I'm suprised by his physicality actually. Garland and OEL are not the problems this year, not at all. Coaching, EP, BB, Hamonic, special teams, waiver losses. Those are the problems. Even the waiver losses… they have a hard time sticking with their new teams… The MASSIVE problems are Green, EP, BB and Hamonic. EP & BB are playing like they are absent. Something devastatingly wrong is going on there. Hamonic completely chumped up. Edited December 5, 2021 by Me_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Me_ said: Even the waiver losses… they have a hard time sticking with their new teams… The MASSIVE problems are Green, EP, BB and Hamonic. EP & BB are playing like they are absent. Something devastatingly wrong is going on there. Yip. It's one thing of your fourth liners struggle. But when the players you've hitched the wagon to are this bad, there's no hope. I'd like to know how the physical conditioning tests for EP and BB went to start the year. Both lost speed and strength this year. That's just inexcusable. Edited December 5, 2021 by rekker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, rekker said: Yip. It's one thing of your fourth liners struggle. But when the players you've hitched the wagon to are this bad, there's no hope. I'd like to know how the physical conditioning tests for EP and BB went to start the year. Both lost speed and strength this year. That's jusy inexcusable. Or Covid got them real good perhaps. It makes no sense that they would be so bad… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 So much crow will be eaten in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnTavares said: So much crow will be eaten in this thread. Garland is worth a first on his own. So not sure what crow your talking about. QHs is having the best start he's had to date, and that's because Myers and OEL work as a top pair. 5 x 5 the entire team is ok. Not anyone connected to this trades fault the PK sucked so bad, or the EP looks like he barely belongs in the league let alone a top six player. That's something we should be really concerned about. OEL .... at 5 million we'd all be singing his praises. So sure some wasted cap there. Garland at under 5 helps manage that, as does QHs no longer being a minus magnet. Worth 2 million or so in cap. EP, BB and our PK are the difference between us being a top team in our division and one fighting for its playoff life. 7.35 for five even strength points - is just a total waste in cap space. Might as well consider that our rebuild window if he can't turn it around. Edit: And JT Miller is better then Tavares - that's bait - but well he actually has scored more points as a Canuck, then Tavares has during that time. For 40% of the price lol. Edited January 16, 2022 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, JohnTavares said: So much crow will be eaten in this thread. By whom? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The trade is decent... But we are spending 13.26mil on a OEL/Myers pairing. That is doing good defensively, but quite poor offensively. Considering the last 3 powerhouse teams we just played their top pairings are Skjei Pesce (9.29mil) , Weegar Ekblad (10.75mil), Hedman Rutta (9.17mil). You quickly see a problem we overspend without getting the performance. And we are stuck with this pairing at least for another 3 years at this caphit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Liked this trade and like the players that came back, given situation would have rather had first rounder and expiring contracts this summer though. JB really misjudged where this team was. Looks like we will end up out of the playoffs either way, just with a worse pick and less flexibility for JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Liked this trade and like the players that came back, given situation would have rather had first rounder and expiring contracts this summer though. JB really misjudged where this team was. Looks like we will end up out of the playoffs either way, just with a worse pick and less flexibility for JR. JB misjudged where the team was the entire time he was here. Can only imagine where we would be if we held onto picks and even acquired some extras. Might not have had to overspend on D. That said I’m glad we got Garland. He’s becoming one of my favourite players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Liked this trade and like the players that came back, given situation would have rather had first rounder and expiring contracts this summer though. JB really misjudged where this team was. Looks like we will end up out of the playoffs either way, just with a worse pick and less flexibility for JR. Agreed. OEL and Garland are great, but seeing where the team is even with them….. Id much rather have the 1st round pick and all that juicy cap space that was coming. Could have utilized it to take a bad contract or two for some picks. Could you imagine where we’d be if we had used our top 10 pick last year, the inevitable top 5 we’d have this year, plus another 1-2 firsts this year? Rebuild would be almost done. Just time to develop. Instead we have no picks and a couple aging guys to compliment our garbage team. Gahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Drakrami said: The trade is decent... But we are spending 13.26mil on a OEL/Myers pairing. That is doing good defensively, but quite poor offensively. Considering the last 3 powerhouse teams we just played their top pairings are Skjei Pesce (9.29mil) , Weegar Ekblad (10.75mil), Hedman Rutta (9.17mil). You quickly see a problem we overspend without getting the performance. And we are stuck with this pairing at least for another 3 years at this caphit. excellent observation. For a few fans it has been clear that OEL's numbers dropped over the last couple of seasons. Based on his salary you have to expect more offensive impact from him. Didn't like this trade from the beginnig, but have to admit that OEL is solid defensively and in terms of leadership. Nevertheless still an ineffecive contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 12/3/2021 at 3:09 AM, FaninMex said: For a fact. Like Toskala in Toronto kind of remembered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 hours ago, spook007 said: By whom? Why? Almost everyone? Wrong deal at the wrong time. Should have been keeping cap flexibility and picks instead of acquiring an absolute anchor of a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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