[Trade] Canucks trade Jay Beagle, Loui Eriksson, Antoine Roussel, 2021 1st-round pick, 2022 2nd-round pick, 2023 7th-round pick to Coyotes for Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Conor Garland

[Dixon Ward]

7 minutes ago, guntrix said:

 

All 3 contracts are expiring. OEL's contract runs through 2026/2027.

 

Not saying the Canucks have lost the trade (because we'd have to see which version of OEL we're getting) but it's disingenuous to leave out such a big detail. 

Everybody knows the details.  I am just pointing out the disparity between the deals.  But there are always "fans" who will accuse me of being disingenuous, because their goal is to be as negative as possible and find it annoying when others want to actual be happy about their team. 

[Ilunga]

5 minutes ago, EoH said:

Potentially it could be the other way around and it’s Hughes that takes the pressure off of Larsson.

Just knowing they want to be on our team is a huge plus.

Hopefully the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.

 

[bbllpp]

Canucks add a top 4 D and a top 6 forward and shed 12 M of dead cap.   Not sure how they don’t come away draft day winners

[Hairy Kneel]

You asked for Larsson 

You got a Larsson 

JB be pimpin'

[EmilyM]

Just now, bbllpp said:

Canucks add a top 4 D and a top 6 forward and shed 12 M of dead cap.   Not sure how they don’t come away draft day winners

Conveniently omitting the 9th overall pick makes the trade look good, sure, but I’d rather have kept the pick and waited until next summer to make a splash.

[N7Nucks]

8 minutes ago, EmilyM said:

Benning himself said we’re aiming to be competitive in two years. So why sell off 9th overall to be a little bit better right now?

Because you want to show your players that matter that you want to improve the team so they don't become like Edmonton's kids back when all they cared about was lottery picks. 9th overall pick doesn't do much for this squad. Our foundation is largely set. Now is the time to build around them. It helps build up their confidence and instead of looking at the direction the team is going and saying "well they don't care about winning, so why should we?" They can look forward to fighting and battling for playoffs. Being competitive in 2 years could just mean being a cup contender. They can and should be a playoff contender now.

[JustNazzy]

18 minutes ago, Mo Grit said:

Not so.

Jim tried stuff.

The players he signed turned out not to actually possess the character they sold him.

They took full advantage.

He fixed that today.

Without dissing them in the media.

Class.

 

I really like your more positive take.

[coryberg]

1 minute ago, EmilyM said:

Conveniently omitting the 9th overall pick makes the trade look good, sure, but I’d rather have kept the pick and waited until next summer to make a splash.

[BlueDragon23]

Have to think Jim knew how the cards were going to fall today, so that’s likely why he felt okay trading the pick away. 
 

Seeing how things turned out today, I’d say he made the right call. We got rid of a lot of dead weight and scored a good player in Garland, and a proven D Man in Ekman-Larsson. 
 

Me like. 

[EmilyM]

Just now, N7Nucks said:

Because you want to show your players that matter that you want to improve the team so they don't become like Edmonton's kids back when all they cared about was lottery picks. 9th overall pick doesn't do much for this squad. Our foundation is largely set. Now is the time to build around them. It helps build up their confidence and instead of looking at the direction the team is going and saying "well they don't care about winning, so why should we?" They can look forward to fighting and battling for playoffs. Being competitive in 2 years could just mean being a cup contender. They can and should be a playoff contender now.

It’s also a recipe to build the next Minnesota Wild. Decades of mediocrity until you eventually buy people out. 

I don’t know, I think a lot of are tired of holding our breath year after year to see what contract trouble we get into next. And now we get to see OEL until 2027.

[DeNiro]

One thing to consider is OEL as a mentor to Petey.

 

I know Swedes don’t only bond with other Swedes but we saw the bond Petey had with Marky.

 

OEL can now be that older mentor to Petey. He was the captain in Arizona for a reason.

[bbllpp]

1 minute ago, EmilyM said:

Conveniently omitting the 9th overall pick makes the trade look good, sure, but I’d rather have kept the pick and waited until next summer to make a splash.

9th overall more likely to be less than 2 proven NHL players, but get your point, fact that Clarke was gone at 9 JB is ahead on this

 

Personally I take NHL players over maybes almost every time and we got two

[Dr. Crossbar]

5 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

You asked for Larsson 

You got a Larsson 

JB be pimpin'

Big fur coat day for JB! 

[canuck73_3]

8 minutes ago, EmilyM said:

A 9th overall lines up better with when our window to compete is open. And it’s not right now.

Garland is 25 and fits our window as well, Dmen can also stay relevant longer with experience aiding their play as shown by Ekman-Larsson who is still just 30. 

[J-Strap]

9 minutes ago, Shiftynifty said:

Really don’t think this is a bad trade, Conor is a nice piece.

If we can sign him at a reasonable price

[Ilunga]

7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

40 point dman who is not as bad defensively as people on here cry ad nauseam. And a stud in Garland. 

Also factor in with these Covid drafts and the amount of games the draftees have been able to play.

[EmilyM]

Just now, bbllpp said:

9th overall more likely to be less than 2 proven NHL players, but get your point, fact that Clarke was gone at 9 JB is ahead on this

 

Personally I take NHL players over maybes almost every time and we got two

Most championship teams have cores built through the draft. I would agree if I felt our core is a trade or two away from being competitive, but I don’t. I feel we still need needle movers. This summer shouldn’t be the summer we go for it. 

[N7Nucks]

5 minutes ago, EmilyM said:

It’s also a recipe to build the next Minnesota Wild. Decades of mediocrity until you eventually buy people out. 

I don’t know, I think a lot of are tired of holding our breath year after year to see what contract trouble we get into next. And now we get to see OEL until 2027.

Minnesota never had a Pettersson and a Hughes in their life. Let alone us having both of them at the same time. As well as a Thatcher Demko. Like I said, our foundation is very good. The biggest complaint last season was we had nobody else come along and help out the studs. At no point has Minnesota had a young core that looked as good as ours. We have Boeser, Horvat, Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Podkolzin and Hoglander. Legit pieces. So us trading picks to help them out isn't the same as Minnesota trading their picks just to keep their heads above water.

[bbllpp]

Just now, EmilyM said:

Most championship teams have cores built through the draft. I would agree if I felt our core is a trade or two away from being competitive, but I don’t. I feel we still need needle movers. This summer shouldn’t be the summer we go for it. 

Problem is this draft has little impact in this core

[Sharpshooter]

I’m going to enjoy some of the earlier hyperbolic posts.