Popular Post 4petesake Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yea that’s one thing fans have to consider when saying that we should have just waited another season to let those contracts expire. We’ve already heard from players like Horvat that last season was very tough on them. And now Petey hinting that he would leave if the team can’t be competitive. If we had another season like we just had next season, it wouldn’t just be the end of the Benning era. We’d likely see multiple players wanting out including Miller, Horvat, Boeser, and potentially Pettersson. You want guys that want to win. If you don’t provide them with a chance to do that then don’t be surprised when they want out. Having another bottom 10 finish next season was not an option. A trade like that was a must, and Benning did a great job on it. I’m not sure why people have such a tough time saying “I was wrong.” I was in the camp that wanted JB to be patient and wait another year and let these contracts run out. I totally underestimated the amount of angst among the players. I was wrong, and JB has done a fantastic job this offseason. 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nucker 67 Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 It's almost as if Benning took the negative parts of the roster and turned them into good, productive pieces overnight. There wasn't a good feeling with the Canucks last season, COVID kept Benn and Miller out, the new guys (Schmidt, Holtby) didn't gel well with their team mates. The room was missing Markstrom and Tanev. Pettersson missed the last half of the season, and then the whole team got COVID. Maybe the worst season ever for the Canucks, just bad from start to finish. But here we are several months later, and it's a different looking team. I sense that the mood has changed, and they'll be much more cohesive as a group. We've never seen OEL on a good team. Some are talking like he's this washed up veteran, but he just turned 30. Lots of good hockey left, and maybe he even feels rejuvenated with this fresh start. Career year coming up for OEL. Forget the contracts, this team is better. A lot better. 8 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Timråfan said: Sorry, it was meant to be in the PM to Jimmy. whoa there, I'm a married man. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: whoa there, I'm a married man. I'm too so I won't say a word 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: I'm too so I won't say a word Married to Dahlen? It makes perfect sense, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Deep Diving: Can Oliver Ekman-Larsson get back to good? https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/can-oliver-ekman-larsson-get-back-to-good-with-the-canucks-4227667 The best thing to do is to keep your expectations for OEL low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) ....duplicate (actual triplicate) post. Edited August 19, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) ....duplicate (actual triplicate) post. Edited August 19, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewbieCanuckFan Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Maddogy said: The best thing to do is to keep your expectations for OEL low. Will be tough as he'll be expected to bear the majority of the tough minutes as well as unlike in Arizona, pretty much nobody gave a dog feces how the team did (zero pressure). It's like the difference in pressure from being the backup goalie vs starting goalie. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4petesake Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Will be tough as he'll be expected to bear the majority of the tough minutes as well as unlike in Arizona, pretty much nobody gave a dog feces how the team did (zero pressure). It's like the difference in pressure from being the backup goalie vs starting goalie. You can say that again! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 1:01 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said: Will be tough as he'll be expected to bear the majority of the tough minutes as well as unlike in Arizona, pretty much nobody gave a dog feces how the team did (zero pressure). It's like the difference in pressure from being the backup goalie vs starting goalie. OEL did play road games in Vancouver. Hopefully that experience can prepare him for this upcoming season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 11:41 AM, Maddogy said: Deep Diving: Can Oliver Ekman-Larsson get back to good? https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/can-oliver-ekman-larsson-get-back-to-good-with-the-canucks-4227667 The best thing to do is to keep your expectations for OEL low. You mean so he can blow them out of the water?!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Has OEL ever had this much talent to play with? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Attila Umbrus Posted August 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, bbllpp said: Has OEL ever had this much talent to play with? I honestly don't think so! This is why this is reminding me so much of the Ehrhoff trade. His star had faded in san jose and they were a middling team. We trade for him and he just fit in perfectly with our offensive guys as soon as he arrived. Then he left to Buffalo and stunk again. It shows it's about the chemistry and the type of players you surround him with. I think OEL will be that kind of fit for us, and we have him locked up for 6 more years. Maybe the last 2 will be rough but I think he will be worth his cap hit for 4 of those years. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: I honestly don't think so! This is why this is reminding me so much of the Ehrhoff trade. His star had faded in san jose and they were a middling team. We trade for him and he just fit in perfectly with our offensive guys as soon as he arrived. Then he left to Buffalo and stunk again. It shows it's about the chemistry and the type of players you surround him with. I think OEL will be that kind of fit for us, and we have him locked up for 6 more years. Maybe the last 2 will be rough but I think he will be worth his cap hit for 4 of those years. The guys carried Arizona for years and can see how a change of scenery will make a huge difference 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCNate Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) I've read so much negative press Re: OEL, I really don't get a lot of it. -The notion that he has been in a free fall for 4 years isn't really telling. In 2019, the last year before Covid, OEL played 81 games, put up 44 points, played over 23 mins per game. That was an excellent season that saw him get Norris votes. -in 2020, he played 66 games, in a much more defensive role than the prior year, put up 30 points and was -3 playing 23 mins a night. In both of these years OEL was a quaklity puck moving defenseman who put up close to .5 PPG. He is not outstanding defensively, but can play some big minutes. Last year was most certainly a tough year for him. The Covid situation, the failed trade attempt, a toxic relationship with Rick Tochet, and a weak AZ team all fed into it. Even in this situation he put up over .5 ppg. I expect that OEL will come to Vancouver next year stoked to play in a legit hockey market, with a chip on his shoulder to prove doubters wrong. He will have a defensive RHD partner, lead the 2nd unit PP, and will likely play 20-22 mins per night. I am really banking on a bounce back year. In watching a number of his clips, I'd say he still has a great shot, is a very good skater with the puck, and is excellent with his stick. He is not overly physical for his size, does get beat to the outside more than you'd like to see, and isn't a great passer. I think our PP's will look something like BB-EP-Garland Miller-Hughes Hog-Bo-Pearson/Podkolzin OEL-Rathbone I expect our 2nd unit will be lightyears better than we've seen i recent years. OEL's deal may be burdensome at for the last couple of seasons, but the Cap will likely be much higher by then, and he will take aup a far lower % of that cap than he currently does. My prediction is that this season we see him return to being a legit top pair D, who knows how long that last, but he will bounce back in a big way. Edited August 23, 2021 by BCNate 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, BCNate said: I've read so much negative press Re: OEL, I really don't get a lot of it. Some people will not let reality get in the way of their pre concieved ideas. A few posters have posted stats such as yours, yet people keep talking about OEL's decline. A lot try to use OEL's exceptionally good year and use it for a comparison; rather than looking at just how consistent he has been year after year, on a crappy team, that didn't even want him for the last couple of years. OMG he only got 55 points one yr then declined. but 4 seasons of 40 or more points, not including the 55 point yr. So 5 seasosn of over 40 points 1 season of 39 points, but only 79 games played. 2010-11 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 48 1 10 11 24 3 -- -- -- -- -- 2010-11 San Antonio Rampage AHL 15 3 7 10 16 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2011-12 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 82 13 19 32 32 0 16 1 3 4 8 2012-13 Portland Pirates AHL 20 7 14 21 28 5 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 48 3 21 24 26 5 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 80 15 29 44 50 -4 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 23 20 43 40 -18 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 Arizona Coyotes NHL 75 21 34 55 96 -6 -- -- -- -- -- 2016-17 Arizona Coyotes NHL 79 12 27 39 48 -25 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 14 28 42 44 -28 -- -- -- -- -- 2018-19 Arizona Coyotes NHL 81 14 30 44 52 -16 -- -- -- -- -- 2019-20 Arizona Coyotes NHL 66 9 21 30 38 -3 9 1 3 4 8 2020-21 Arizona Coyotes NHL 46 3 21 24 32 -17 -- -- -- -- CDC is a strange place. 1 3 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, gurn said: Some people will not let reality get in the way of their pre concieved ideas. A few posters have posted stats such as yours, yet people keep talking about OEL's decline. A lot try to use OEL's exceptionally good year and use it for a comparison; rather than looking at just how consistent he has been year after year, on a crappy team, that didn't even want him for the last couple of years. OMG he only got 55 points one yr then declined. but 4 seasons of 40 or more points, not including the 55 point yr. So 5 seasosn of over 40 points 1 season of 39 points, but only 79 games played. 2010-11 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 48 1 10 11 24 3 -- -- -- -- -- 2010-11 San Antonio Rampage AHL 15 3 7 10 16 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2011-12 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 82 13 19 32 32 0 16 1 3 4 8 2012-13 Portland Pirates AHL 20 7 14 21 28 5 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 48 3 21 24 26 5 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 80 15 29 44 50 -4 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 23 20 43 40 -18 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 Arizona Coyotes NHL 75 21 34 55 96 -6 -- -- -- -- -- 2016-17 Arizona Coyotes NHL 79 12 27 39 48 -25 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Arizona Coyotes NHL 82 14 28 42 44 -28 -- -- -- -- -- 2018-19 Arizona Coyotes NHL 81 14 30 44 52 -16 -- -- -- -- -- 2019-20 Arizona Coyotes NHL 66 9 21 30 38 -3 9 1 3 4 8 2020-21 Arizona Coyotes NHL 46 3 21 24 32 -17 -- -- -- -- CDC is a strange place. These are probably the same people that said JT Miller was declining and only a "bottom 6 forward". Only to be "pleasantly surprised"/"glad to be wrong" about his performance here. Hell, I still hear some rumblings about how we still shouldn't have given up a 1st rounder for JT. I almost feel like some posters want OEL to fail here so they can continue their rant about Benning/management. They rather be "proven right" than to see the success of the team under a Benning management it seems. 4 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, theo5789 said: These are probably the same people that said JT Miller was declining and only a "bottom 6 forward". Only to be "pleasantly surprised"/"glad to be wrong" about his performance here. Hell, I still hear some rumblings about how we still shouldn't have given up a 1st rounder for JT. I almost feel like some posters want OEL to fail here so they can continue their rant about Benning/management. They rather be "proven right" than to see the success of the team under a Benning management it seems. its not almost, they do want him to fail. There's a weird anti-Benning cult out there thats obsessed with him and whatever moves he makes to the point of wanting players to do poorly, so they can be proven right. Edited August 23, 2021 by Jimmy McGill 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its not almost, they do want him to fail. There's a weird anti-Benning cult out there thats obsessed with him and whatever moves he makes to the point of wanting players to do poorly, so they can be proven right. And they claim to be "Canuck fans". Plus if whichever player succeeds, it'll be because of some scout or anyone else they can give credit to instead. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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