Warhippy Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, RomanP said: So, you choose to ignore the fact that there was a serious research into the matter? Just because you are used to specific form of development? Ok but...what development? Again and I know this might come as a surprise. Since 2005/2006 the Canucks have successfully drafted only 11 PLAYERS who have played more than 200 games, 5 of which were drafted top 10. 4 of which came from the same draft If that is a "specific form of development" that serious research was put in to, then it was simply research to figure out why those results were so gd awful and what the hell went wrong with them. Wanna know how many total draft picks were made by the canucks in that time? It is not pretty like at all. The results are less than a 6% success rate for development. Get your chummy with Klimovich and we ALL want him and our prospects to succeed, but I stand by my statement. if he makes it it will be IN SPITE of the Canucks development program, not because of. With the twins taking over in short order things might change for the better. But, I am hesitant to ever laude the last 15+ years of Canucks development as any sort of well thought out, researched or successful program Edited November 28, 2022 by Warhippy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 hours ago, AV's Coin said: Volleyball is such an underrated sport. I stumbled on YouTube videos of Yuji Nishida. Amazing vertical jump and killer spike. I heartily recommend you give his highlights videos a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: Ok but...what development? Again and I know this might come as a surprise. Since 2005/2006 the Canucks have successfully drafted only 11 PLAYERS who have played more than 200 games, 5 of which were drafted top 10. 4 of which came from the same draft If that is a "specific form of development" that serious research was put in to, then it was simply research to figure out why those results were so gd awful and what the hell went wrong with them. Wanna know how many total draft picks were made by the canucks in that time? It is not pretty like at all. The results are less than a 6% success rate for development. Get your chummy with Klimovich and we ALL want him and our prospects to succeed, but I stand by my statement. if he makes it it will be IN SPITE of the Canucks development program, not because of. With the twins taking over in short order things might change for the better. But, I am hesitant to ever laude the last 15+ years of Canucks development as any sort of well thought out, researched or successful program Bud, I never argued with you about the past. I’m talking about potentially changed approach only this season and asking to wait to pass judgement. It’s easy to criticize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Curmudgeon said: I stumbled on YouTube videos of Yuji Nishida. Amazing vertical jump and killer spike. I heartily recommend you give his highlights videos a look. Yes he is amazing. I like Ishikawa more though. I love watching the japan team play. Amazing defense and very quick attacks. Edited November 28, 2022 by AV's Coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 9 hours ago, RomanP said: Bud, I never argued with you about the past. I’m talking about potentially changed approach only this season and asking to wait to pass judgement. It’s easy to criticize. Then...what are we even talking about? Because my comments are about blown development and the risk of continuing bad habits with prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) He's playing in the AHL and was as an 18 year old. It's normal for teams (ALL TEAMS), to take a step back with a prospect and help him analyze and improve his game. All teams do this. For teams to be successful at the NHL level, players must EARN their playing time and must be SHOWN how to play the game the right way. This kid has loads of talent, but he also could easily become a floater if he's not shown and forced to play in his own end as well and defend. Edited November 28, 2022 by VegasCanuck 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flat land fish Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 10 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Good for him great response to the recent adversity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, flat land fish said: Good for him great response to the recent adversity Love to see our bigger bodied guys, who have this kind of skill to play top minutes, be taught to fight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Love to see our bigger bodied guys, who have this kind of skill to play top minutes, be taught to fight. Thanks Rando Calrissian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: We have to keep reminding ourselves he’s only 19. Even our best prospects were not in the AHL performing at his age. It’s not an easy league for any player let alone a teenager. Im glad we finally have a prospect that can stew down in the minors for 3 or 4 seasons. It’s what great development teams like LA and Tampa do. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Having Podz down with him for a while is probably good for both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Having Podz down with him for a while is probably good for both of them. Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, RomanP said: Not really Curious as to why you think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: Curious as to why you think that. They are just not as close as everyone seems to think. There are no problems between them, so don't overthink it. Having Podkolzin assigned to Abbotsford has the same affect on Danila if someone like Hoglander was assigned to Abbotsford, that's all. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, RomanP said: They are just not as close as everyone seems to think. There are no problems between them, so don't overthink it. Having Podkolzin assigned to Abbotsford has the same affect on Danila if someone like Hoglander was assigned to Abbotsford, that's all. That's pretty fair. Though having someone else to talk to without a language barrier issue is probably nice to have even if they aren't best friends yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, RomanP said: They are just not as close as everyone seems to think. There are no problems between them, so don't overthink it. Having Podkolzin assigned to Abbotsford has the same affect on Danila if someone like Hoglander was assigned to Abbotsford, that's all. Does Klim know if he adds meanness (even fighting) to his game that with his size and skill he would increase his chances at an NHL career? Do our prospects get this kind of advice? I know we tried that approach with Tryamkin, but it wasn't in his nature to be that type of player. Might be old fashioned thinking, but sure didn't like seeing Podz in that fight a few weeks back. Clearly we need to help our guys at least learn how to protect themselves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RomanP Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Diamonds said: That's pretty fair. Though having someone else to talk to without a language barrier issue is probably nice to have even if they aren't best friends yet. They do communicate, don’t get me wrong. But Danila’s English is already much better. Danila is closest with Silovs and Lockwood. Edited November 30, 2022 by RomanP 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Alflives said: Does Klim know if he adds meanness (even fighting) to his game that with his size and skill he would increase his chances at an NHL career? Do our prospects get this kind of advice? I know we tried that approach with Tryamkin, but it wasn't in his nature to be that type of player. Might be old fashioned thinking, but sure didn't like seeing Podz in that fight a few weeks back. Clearly we need to help our guys at least learn how to protect themselves? He’s listening to what he’s being told by Sedins, not by me . I can help out with day-to-day questions about life in Canada, not on ice things. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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