Kootenay Gold Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Johnny Torts said: Yah no. 17.5 I think? Few signing that we've made will be in Abby too. Try again! With Ferland going back on LTIR it is probably around 19 1/2 mil in space. 7.5 mil for Petey, 6.5 mil for Hughes, 3.5 mil for Dickenson and 1 mill for Juolevi.....room to spare but offer sheet could certainly screw that up a bit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarjakd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: With Ferland going back on LTIR it is probably around 19 1/2 mil in space. 7.5 mil for Petey, 6.5 mil for Hughes, 3.5 mil for Dickenson and 1 mill for Juolevi.....room to spare but offer sheet could certainly screw that up a bit. That's a bit much for Dickinson. I'd put him as 2.5-2.9 and Juo to maybe 1.5m 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted July 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 16 hours ago, NucksLifestyle said: I think there's only like 14 million as of July 29th to sign these guys.... Pettersson Hughes Dickinson Joulevi Best of luck..... What an absolute stupid thing to do signing Poolman and Schenn.... Just horrible. Our d core was fine with, Hughes/Myers/OEL/ Hamonic/Joulevi/Rathbone...... And Chatfield to call up here n there.... Come on.... Your a national league gm.... Add on Ferland's salary, as he is essentially done with hockey from a playing perspective. Juolevi won't get much in the way of a raise. Dickinson, probably $2.5. How does two defensemen making a combined salary of a little over $3M really truly affect signing Pettersson and Hughes? I mean, alone, Schenn is only going to get $850,000 for each of the next two years. The defense was weak on the right side, and needed some size and stay at home acumen going forward. I don't think that those two salaries will be back breaking in the long run when it comes to re-signing Elias and Quinn. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 16 hours ago, NucksLifestyle said: I think there's only like 14 million as of July 29th to sign these guys.... Pettersson Hughes Dickinson Joulevi Best of luck..... What an absolute stupid thing to do signing Poolman and Schenn.... Just horrible. Our d core was fine with, Hughes/Myers/OEL/ Hamonic/Joulevi/Rathbone...... And Chatfield to call up here n there.... Come on.... Your a national league gm.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, sarjakd said: That's a bit much for Dickinson. I'd put him as 2.5-2.9 and Juo to maybe 1.5m I was not being conservative with Dickinson's contract whereas Juolevi is probably right about where his contract will end up IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: With Ferland going back on LTIR it is probably around 19 1/2 mil in space. 7.5 mil for Petey, 6.5 mil for Hughes, 3.5 mil for Dickenson and 1 mill for Juolevi.....room to spare but offer sheet could certainly screw that up a bit. I think its 14 right now + Ferland 3.5 LTIR money so 17.5 , plus whoever gets put in Abby, no? Pretty sure that what it looks like on capfriendly right now. Regardless, we have cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: I think its 14 right now + Ferland 3.5 LTIR money so 17.5 , plus whoever gets put in Abby, no? Pretty sure that what it looks like on capfriendly right now. Regardless, we have cap. FORWARDS POS AGE 2021-22 Pettersson, Elias C 22 $7,500,000 Boeser, Brock RW 23 $5,875,000 Miller, J.T. C, LW, RW 27 $5,250,000 Horvat, Bo C 25 $5,500,000 Pearson, Tanner LW 28 $3,250,000 Hoglander, Nils LW/RW 20 $891,667 Sutter, Brandon RW, C 32 $1,125,000 Dickenson, Jason LW,C 26 $3,500,000 Conor Garland LW/RW 25 $4,950,000 Highmore, Matthew LW/RW 25 $725,000 Vasily Podkolzin RW 20 $925,000 MacEwen, Zack C, RW 24 $825,000 Motte, Tyler RW, LW, C 25 $1,225,000 SUB TOTAL $41,541,667 DEFENSE POS AGE 2021-22 Ekman Larsson, Oliver LD 30 $7,260,000 Myers, Tyler RD 30 $6,000,000 Poolman, Tucker RD 28 $2,500,000 Schenn, Luke RD 31 $850,000 Rathbone, Jack LD 21 $925,000 Hughes, Quinn LD 20 $7,000,000 Juolevi, Olli LD 22 $1,000,000 Hamonic, Travis RD 28 $3,000,000 SUB TOTAL $28,535,000 GOALIES POS AGE 2021-22 Demko, Thatcher G 24 $5,000,000 Halak, Jaroslav G 36 $1,500,000 SUB TOTAL $6,500,000 BUYOUT HISTORY 2021-22 Virtanen, Jake $50,000 Holtby, Brayden $500,000 SUB TOTAL $550,000 RECAPTURE PENALTY 2021-22 Luongo, Roberto $3,033,206 LTIR Ferland, Michael LTIR LW/RW 28 $3,500,000 GRAND TOTAL $80,159,873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Petey at 7.5 just seems right haha. Edited July 30, 2021 by c00kies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Kootenay Gold said: FORWARDS POS AGE 2021-22 Pettersson, Elias C 22 $7,500,000 Boeser, Brock RW 23 $5,875,000 Miller, J.T. C, LW, RW 27 $5,250,000 Horvat, Bo C 25 $5,500,000 Pearson, Tanner LW 28 $3,250,000 Hoglander, Nils LW/RW 20 $891,667 Sutter, Brandon RW, C 32 $1,125,000 Dickenson, Jason LW,C 26 $3,500,000 Conor Garland LW/RW 25 $4,950,000 Highmore, Matthew LW/RW 25 $725,000 Vasily Podkolzin RW 20 $925,000 MacEwen, Zack C, RW 24 $825,000 Motte, Tyler RW, LW, C 25 $1,225,000 SUB TOTAL $41,541,667 DEFENSE POS AGE 2021-22 Ekman Larsson, Oliver LD 30 $7,260,000 Myers, Tyler RD 30 $6,000,000 Poolman, Tucker RD 28 $2,500,000 Schenn, Luke RD 31 $850,000 Rathbone, Jack LD 21 $925,000 Hughes, Quinn LD 20 $7,000,000 Juolevi, Olli LD 22 $1,000,000 Hamonic, Travis RD 28 $3,000,000 SUB TOTAL $28,535,000 GOALIES POS AGE 2021-22 Demko, Thatcher G 24 $5,000,000 Halak, Jaroslav G 36 $1,500,000 SUB TOTAL $6,500,000 BUYOUT HISTORY 2021-22 Virtanen, Jake $50,000 Holtby, Brayden $500,000 SUB TOTAL $550,000 RECAPTURE PENALTY 2021-22 Luongo, Roberto $3,033,206 LTIR Ferland, Michael LTIR LW/RW 28 $3,500,000 GRAND TOTAL $80,159,873 I'd rather just go on Capfriendly your chart will give me a headache! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therodigy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm not concerned about an offersheet. It would take a massive overpayment of 10.5M+ to make it difficult to match, which very few teams have access to or rosters to make losing the four consecutive 1st rounds worth it. Detroit: Needs at least one more year of solid building before making the postseason, let alone making an actual impact in a very difficult division. Ottawa: same as Detroit, plus they need to sort out their own RFA situation with Tkachuk and Batherson first. Buffalo: As above, plus they need to sort out their Eichel situation and RFAs Dahlin and Mittelstadt. New Jersey: With Hughes and Hishier as their top 2 Centres, they would only be interested if they are wanting a significant upgrade at wing. That said, Hughes is an RFA next year and will have to consider his contract, even though Subban is off the books. My belief is they need to see what they are this season before they commit four 1sts. Nashville: With Johansen and Duchene eating a combined $16M per year, adding Pettersson at $10.5M could mean losing Forsberg and or Ekholm next season. Besides, they still need to figure out contracts for Fabbro, Tolvanen, and Saros. Minnesota: Offersheeting Pettersson will mean losing one of Fiala or Kaprizov, especially since their buyout penalties are so harsh over the next few seasons. Anaheim: They're rebuilding, plus have 4 important RFAs to sign in Steel, Jones, Lindstrom, and Comtois, not to mention at least one more Defenseman to fill out their roster, whether in free agency, trade, or from within. NYI: With Beauvillier and Pelech due new contracts, their cap is committed, not to mention Barzal's contract to consider next season. Seattle: This is the only team that may concern me, however they would have to be 1000% confident they will be a Stanley cup contender to give up four 1sts after just joining the league. If they crash and burn out after this offersheet, their future is stalled for almost 4 years. Carolina: They only do this if they can confidently sign Svechnikov to a team friendly deal and move out one of Neidereiter or Trocheck to facilitate the cap space. Not likely to happen. NYR: If they figure out their Goalie situation, they may make a play, though it will compromise their ability to keep all of Strome, Kaako, Kravtsov, and Fox. This is a big gamble. Calgary: As much as it could hurt to see him go there, Calgary still needs to figure out their contracts for Zadorov, Duke, and Kylington. There is also uncertainty facing the futures of Monahan and Gaudreau. Is it worth giving up four 1sts if they lose those two the following year? Columbus: Petterson flanked by Laine could be scary, however it will risk their ability to keep Laine (should they wish to), Roslovic, and will lead to losing one of either Merzlikins or Korpisalo. Arizona: They are not going to give up their picks to facilitate this, after spending the past month collecting picks to rebuild their club fixing the last few years of mediocrity. St. Louis: With the RFAs they still need to sign they won't have the cap space to even consider an offersheet. The remaining teams don't have the space, flexibility, or picks to consider an offersheet. I'm confident we'll get Pettersson signed to a favorable deal. All we have to do is wait, which is always the hard part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: I'd rather just go on Capfriendly your chart will give me a headache! I was unable to get it to display properly for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Kootenay Gold said: I was unable to get it to display properly for some reason. All good. All said and done, we have about 20ish M in space, you're not wrong. Cheers! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: FORWARDS POS AGE 2021-22 Pettersson, Elias C 22 $7,500,000 Boeser, Brock RW 23 $5,875,000 Miller, J.T. C, LW, RW 27 $5,250,000 Horvat, Bo C 25 $5,500,000 Pearson, Tanner LW 28 $3,250,000 Hoglander, Nils LW/RW 20 $891,667 Sutter, Brandon RW, C 32 $1,125,000 Dickenson, Jason LW,C 26 $3,500,000 Conor Garland LW/RW 25 $4,950,000 Highmore, Matthew LW/RW 25 $725,000 Vasily Podkolzin RW 20 $925,000 MacEwen, Zack C, RW 24 $825,000 Motte, Tyler RW, LW, C 25 $1,225,000 SUB TOTAL $41,541,667 DEFENSE POS AGE 2021-22 Ekman Larsson, Oliver LD 30 $7,260,000 Myers, Tyler RD 30 $6,000,000 Poolman, Tucker RD 28 $2,500,000 Schenn, Luke RD 31 $850,000 Rathbone, Jack LD 21 $925,000 Hughes, Quinn LD 20 $7,000,000 Juolevi, Olli LD 22 $1,000,000 Hamonic, Travis RD 28 $3,000,000 SUB TOTAL $28,535,000 GOALIES POS AGE 2021-22 Demko, Thatcher G 24 $5,000,000 Halak, Jaroslav G 36 $1,500,000 SUB TOTAL $6,500,000 BUYOUT HISTORY 2021-22 Virtanen, Jake $50,000 Holtby, Brayden $500,000 SUB TOTAL $550,000 RECAPTURE PENALTY 2021-22 Luongo, Roberto $3,033,206 LTIR Ferland, Michael LTIR LW/RW 28 $3,500,000 GRAND TOTAL $80,159,873 Look at that average age of this team and core. A sight for sore eyes. Definitely a new era ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Why is Sutter getting 1million. Roussel/Beagle should get off the team asap. And then here it is suddenly chill with people offering Dickinson 3.5mil AAV lol... He may suck, or may not fit the team at all. I dont know if arbitration rights come into play or not. But I would offer him a 1.5mil 1 year deal to see how things turn out. Canucks are just digging themselves into another salary cap hole handing out contracts like this to unproven players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Why is Sutter getting 1million. Roussel/Beagle should get off the team asap. And then here it is suddenly chill with people offering Dickinson 3.5mil AAV lol... He may suck, or may not fit the team at all. I dont know if arbitration rights come into play or not. But I would offer him a 1.5mil 1 year deal to see how things turn out. Canucks are just digging themselves into another salary cap hole handing out contracts like this to unproven players. Those words hurt my head in different ways at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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