J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Rathbone isnt better than OJ. And OJ has the higher ceiling. Youre not going to contend when you have a top 6 that consists of 2 small and soft dmen that arent good defenders. It is almost like you don't watch the Canucks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: It is almost like you don't watch the Canucks Jan where u been? Lots of things been going on. I totally called the schmidt trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Bertuzzipunch said: Jan where u been? Lots of things been going on. I totally called the schmidt trade. LOL.......I have been watching Alot has happened and Benning has been true to his word I was just gathering my thoughts I had to get over the OEL trade, which I am now on board with Thanks to some friends.........cmmon sense prevailed! What I like most is how he has remade the team Now, we wait for training camp........maybe a another pick up But now its mostly rebuilding abby I wonder how Jake is today? PS.....good work on the Schmidt trade........I thought he was worth more......I was wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: LOL.......I have been watching Alot has happened and Benning has been true to his word I was just gathering my thoughts I had to get over the OEL trade, which I am now on board with Thanks to some friends.........cmmon sense prevailed! What I like most is how he has remade the team Now, we wait for training camp........maybe a another pick up But now its mostly rebuilding abby I wonder how Jake is today? PS.....good work on the Schmidt trade........I thought he was worth more......I was wrong! I know trading that 9th pick was gonna hurt u so i didnt reach out till now. Lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009cupchamps Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: It is almost like you don't watch the Canucks I think he does watch the Canucks. Joulevi is better with a higher ceiling for an over all game and Rathbone is smaller then Hughes. So we have our token small d man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: I know trading that 9th pick was gonna hurt u so i didnt reach out till now. Lmao Well, if we take another step forward, I am all in. Gotta give Benning a break and wait and see It is the reason I am not a GM.............or rather one of many! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz19 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 While I think this is the 'opener' I think the season will see the top two lines change with Boeser and Bo together with Garland, and Hogs up with Miller and Petey (to balance off the lines better). Miller Petey Boeser Garland Bo Hoglander Pearson Dickinson Motte Highmore Sutter McKewan Podz (because green is green) OEL Meyers Hughes Hamonic Juolevi Poolman Rathbone Schenn Demko Halak -------------------------- Most of the Season Miller Petey Hoglander Garland Bo Boeser Pearson Dickinson Podz Motte Sutter Mckewan Highmore/Gadj/Lockwood as spares call ups Same D and Goalies as above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: Well, if we take another step forward, I am all in. Gotta give Benning a break and wait and see It is the reason I am not a GM.............or rather one of many! Guess it was guenther we missed out on. Getting garland was the piece i wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Rathbone isnt better than OJ. And OJ has the higher ceiling. Youre not going to contend when you have a top 6 that consists of 2 small and soft dmen that arent good defenders. As of this moment Rathbone is better. Both players throw hits at a similar rate and have a similar giveaway/takeaway ratio (not good), however Rathbone's rate of production and corsi numbers are superior. Also, one must take into account how well each player has performed since being drafted. Juolevi has had his struggles every step of the way. His run in junior after being drafted was nothing to write home about, nor was his performance at the World Juniors. He also had his issues in liiga as well before stepping up big during the playoffs (credit to him there), and his time in the AHL has been somewhat of a mixed bag as well. Rathbone, meanwhile, has excelled, and made the jump to the AHL with no difficulty whatsoever. This was obviously noticed by management, as he was up on the main roster after his brief (but very succesful) stint in Utica. So yes, Rathbone is better as of this moment. But again, whether or not Woo makes the lineup next year has no bearing on Rathbone (or Juolevi). Woo would have to displace someone on the right side, and since Myers and Poolman are both anchors, the most likely candidate is Hamonic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 2009cupchamps said: I think he does watch the Canucks. Joulevi is better with a higher ceiling for an over all game and Rathbone is smaller then Hughes. So we have our token small d man No.............Rathbone is 5'11" 190 lbs......Hughes is 5'10" 170 lbs as per cap friendly Also if he had watched he would have seen Rathbone hitting and not bouncing off...............totally different players, Hughes will never be able to do that. Asv for ceiling..........ceiling works for about 3 years in most cases, sometime 4, but by then, most players have shown their ceiling What you are talking about is their precieved ceiling at draft day...........many do not reach that, and I like Juolevi and he may improve But as for quoting ceilings of Draft + 6 years..........best not to Rathbone has had 16 professional games, and looked very good in all of them, including the 8 with the Canucks Let us just wait and see.......... Edited July 29, 2021 by janisahockeynut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Guess it was guenther we missed out on. Getting garland was the piece i wanted. I don't know much about the player But you guys are getting me excited Let's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: No.............Rathbone is 5'11" 190 lbs......Hughes is 5'10" 170 lbs as per cap friendly Also if he had watched he would have seen Rathbone hitting and no bouncing off...............totally different players, Hughes will never be able to do that. Asv for ceiling..........ceiling works for about 3 years in most cases, sometime 4, but by then, most players have shown their ceiling What you are talking about is their precieved ceiling at draft day...........many do not reach that, and I like Juolevi and he may improve But as for quoting ceilings of Draft + 6 years..........best not to Rathbone has had 16 professional games, and looked very good in all of them, including the 8 with the Canucks Let us just wait and see.......... Have u seen rathbones legs? Thick as hell. I think hes way stronger than ppl give him credit for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Have u seen rathbones legs? Thick as hell. I think hes way stronger than ppl give him credit for Yeah, he's not the tallest guy in the world, but he's built like a brick $&!#house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: I don't know much about the player But you guys are getting me excited Let's hope! Dude cmon get on YouTube and watch him. Poor mans Braydon Point!! His skating is unbelievable. When he played with eichel he was outscoring him even in juniors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Dude cmon get on YouTube and watch him. Poor mans Braydon Point!! His skating is unbelievable. When he played with eichel he was outscoring him even in juniors. Except he never played with Eichel.......lol Well, maybe somewhere, but I could not find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Not sure what's going to happen Vancouver currently has 14M left to sign Petey, Hughes, Juolevi and Dickinson. Who gets traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Except he never played with Eichel.......lol Well, maybe somewhere, but I could not find it Yeah i think they were like 15 on some boston bruins jr team lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, beni said: Not sure what's going to happen Vancouver currently has 14M left to sign Petey, Hughes, Juolevi and Dickinson. Who gets traded? Lol wut? We have more than 14. Most of the signings we did today wont be counted against the cap they will be playing in abbotsford. Pretty sure we have around 20 or something maybe a bit less. Cap friendly adds the signing today to the cap hit and take it off when they get sent to the ahl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 11:49 AM, Kobayashi Maru said: Here is my current prediction: Hoglander - Petey - Boeser Miller - Horvat - Garland Pearson - Dickenson - Podkolzin Motte - MacEwen - Lockwood Extras: Gadjovich Hughes - Hamonic Ekman Larsson - Myers Juolevi - Schenn Extras: Rathbone, Bowey Demko Halak agreed BUT Hughes shouldn't have to be going up against 1st lines, he's still learning the ropes and should be 2nd line match ups instead, that's a lot to ask of someone his age.. he was bound to hit a wall last season and then he was roasted on the boards and Vancouver media, geez... however I like what JB just did but I don't think I would give Garland that much but whatever, I would have offered a mil off a season, hopefully he'll look like a steal when (crossing fingers) the cap increases... but at the end of the day, we're a bigger better team than last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, iceman64 said: agreed BUT Hughes shouldn't have to be going up against 1st lines, he's still learning the ropes and should be 2nd line match ups instead, that's a lot to ask of someone his age.. he was bound to hit a wall last season and then he was roasted on the boards and Vancouver media, geez... however I like what JB just did but I don't think I would give Garland that much but whatever, I would have offered a mil off a season, hopefully he'll look like a steal when (crossing fingers) the cap increases... but at the end of the day, we're a bigger better team than last year Yeah agreed and the key thing this year was providing more D balance so it wasn’t all on Quinn. I think OEL Myers will play the tougher matchups giving Quinn a bit of freedom. If Rathbone becomes dangerous that also helps take some of the matchups. Either way we are quite a bit better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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