KyGuy123 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 9:04 PM, coryberg said: His contract would begin when he starts playing for the AHL team. No it slides for a year unless he plays more than 10 games with the big team (Vancouver Canucks) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, ZH96 said: From his highlights… the shape and size of his frame combined with his vision and stick speed reminds me of Nathan MacKinnon. If he can get lower in his stride and sharpen up his all-around game even more than we might have a massive steal here. Ya, no pressure there LOL. Let's keep this real. He has been playing in a league that is below leagues like the Q. I think we would all be over the moon if he becomes a big physical winger who has nose for the net . Think Lucic. Edited August 1, 2021 by appleboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 We should save his 9 games for the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 6 hours ago, appleboy said: Ya, no pressure there LOL. Let's keep this real. He has been playing in a league that is below leagues like the Q. I think we would all be over the moon if he becomes a big physical winger who has nose for the net . Think Lucic. I never said he is Nathan MacKinnon… I said his frame with stick speed and vision reminds me of him. He’s likely not Nathan MacKinnon. The level he’s been playing at right now doesn’t mean anything. He just turned 18 in January and any prospect that young should not be examined too hard on where they’re at but where they could be at. He’s not a physical Lucic style winger. He’s far more skilled than that. Different and higher-end style of play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 17 hours ago, KyGuy123 said: No it slides for a year unless he plays more than 10 games with the big team (Vancouver Canucks) Only if he plays in the CHL or goes back to Russia. Playing in the AHL would have us paying him under his NHL contract. He can't sign an AHL contract on top of his NHL contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 19 hours ago, elvis15 said: Only if he plays in the CHL or goes back to Russia. Playing in the AHL would have us paying him under his NHL contract. He can't sign an AHL contract on top of his NHL contract. I heard otherwise. Think I read it on Canucks army that it slide no matter where he plays next year to the following. I could have read false information though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 hours ago, KyGuy123 said: I heard otherwise. Think I read it on Canucks army that it slide no matter where he plays next year to the following. I could have read false information though. Actually, there is a provision for players who are 18/19 as of Sept 15th in their signing year. If he were 19 and turning 20 before the end of the year, then it wouldn't. I stand corrected. I still wouldn't have any issue with having him in the AHL though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarjakd Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, elvis15 said: Actually, there is a provision for players who are 18/19 as of Sept 15th in their signing year. If he were 19 and turning 20 before the end of the year, then it wouldn't. I stand corrected. I still wouldn't have any issue with having him in the AHL though. So if he plays in the A this year, his contract slides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 10:41 AM, ZH96 said: I never said he is Nathan MacKinnon… I said his frame with stick speed and vision reminds me of him. He’s likely not Nathan MacKinnon. The level he’s been playing at right now doesn’t mean anything. He just turned 18 in January and any prospect that young should not be examined too hard on where they’re at but where they could be at. He’s not a physical Lucic style winger. He’s far more skilled than that. Different and higher-end style of play He reminds me of Toffoli actually, but of course he probably has about a 15% chance of getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/28/2021 at 6:05 PM, King Heffy said: I suspect a lot of the teams with late 1sts or early 2nds will regret passing on him. His ceiling is high and his work ethic should help him reach it. Especially if he has the work ethic of Alexander Burrows. I went to a couple of practices when Burr was on the team. First one on, last off, and worked on drills, face offs, and shooting accuracy. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyGuy123 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, sarjakd said: So if he plays in the A this year, his contract slides? Yes. No matter where he plays this year it slides. AHL, KHL, SHL, QMJHL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I was negative on the idea of a season in the AHL versus the QMJHL and definitely negative on the KHL. Reading opinions I am shifting to Abby. Improve the development and transition process. I am wondering how much time the Twins will spend in Abbottsford? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 21 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: He reminds me of Toffoli actually, but of course he probably has about a 15% chance of getting there. Good comparison! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Boudrias said: I was negative on the idea of a season in the AHL versus the QMJHL and definitely negative on the KHL. Reading opinions I am shifting to Abby. Improve the development and transition process. I am wondering how much time the Twins will spend in Abbottsford? I think the Sedins will be attending half the home games out there if I had to guess. And I think physically he’s ready for the AHL and it will serve him well. He’s very big for his age. Just needs to develop his massive upside skill set. Also the same way Benning might get a Russian player for Podkolzin. I think a Belarus native player would help Klimovich as a foreign kid in a big intimidating North American market. Signing someone like Belarus D-man Stepan Falkovsky for Abbotsford would be smart. Falkovsky himself is also only 24 and would be a nice potential piece to add to the system. Still has potential to be a bottom four D-man in the NHL. Size and two-way ability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/3/2021 at 7:37 PM, ZH96 said: I think the Sedins will be attending half the home games out there if I had to guess. And I think physically he’s ready for the AHL and it will serve him well. He’s very big for his age. Just needs to develop his massive upside skill set. Also the same way Benning might get a Russian player for Podkolzin. I think a Belarus native player would help Klimovich as a foreign kid in a big intimidating North American market. Signing someone like Belarus D-man Stepan Falkovsky for Abbotsford would be smart. Falkovsky himself is also only 24 and would be a nice potential piece to add to the system. Still has potential to be a bottom four D-man in the NHL. Size and two-way ability. Considering they both speak Russian (I believe most Belarusians speak Russian) Podz and Klimovich could likely become best of friends 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Oregon.Duck said: Considering they both speak Russian (I believe most Belarusians speak Russian) Podz and Klimovich could likely become best of friends Belarusians have two main languages including Russian from what I’ve read and it’s apparently more so that Belarusians can sometimes understand when someone is speaking Russian. But there’s still some differences. But yes the similarities in backgrounds and their respective playing styles could complement each other nicely. Hopefully a Podkolzin-Zlodeyev-Klimovich line one day! As for now a Belarusian young player signed for Klimovich in Abbotsford would be nice. As well as trading for a Russian player for Podkolzin up here.. hopefully one of Nichushkin, Gavrikov, Namestnikov, or Lyubushkin.. all would fit our team and be a big add too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted August 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ZH96 said: Belarusians have two main languages including Russian from what I’ve read and it’s apparently more so that Belarusians can sometimes understand when someone is speaking Russian. But there’s still some differences. But yes the similarities in backgrounds and their respective playing styles could complement each other nicely. Hopefully a Podkolzin-Zlodeyev-Klimovich line one day! As for now a Belarusian young player signed for Klimovich in Abbotsford would be nice. As well as trading for a Russian player for Podkolzin up here.. hopefully one of Nichushkin, Gavrikov, Namestnikov, or Lyubushkin.. all would fit our team and be a big add too. It’s my understanding that most Belarusians are completely fluent in Russian, but not all can speak Belarusian. The way I’ve heard it described is somewhat similar to Ireland and the Irish language. Speaking Russian in Belarus is like speaking English in Ireland. And speaking Belarusian is somewhat similar to speaking Irish (Irish Gaelic). The majority of Belarusians can probably speak some Belarusian, but fewer can actually read it, and very few can write in Belarusian. On the other hand, nearly every Belarusian is fluent in Russian, and most Belarusians prefer to speak Russian at home, at work, and in the street. Almost all of their media is in Russian, and the vast majority of their books are printed in Russian. Education is also almost entirely in Russian. (UNESCO even rates Belarusian as a “vulnerable” language. They report only 4 million people on the planet can actually speak Belarusian, despite Belarus having a population of 9.5 million, and there being a diaspora of another 3.5 million Belarusians scattered around the world.) EDIT: Bringing this back to Klimovich, I’d expect he’ll have no problem conversing in Russian with Podkolzin. Although Danila’s English is actually surprisingly good, so he may choose to speak mostly English with Vasili (who is also getting pretty good at English, and looking to improve), and then maybe they’ll fall back on Russian when needed. Edited August 5, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Typo 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 The guy is 6’2 202 lbs and isn’t even 18 yet. He looks like he has the solid mass to be able to handle a men’s league. There is a money component that some aren’t considering and what an AHL salary and signing bonus could mean in Belarus at this moment. This guy isn’t a spoiled kid ‘growing up’ in a milk toast suburb of Vancouver or any other rich NA city with holistic wellness centres. The QMHL might not be a feasible option for this kid, who may be carrying a lot more responsibility than we know. Podz wasn’t sheltered from men in his draft season, why would Klimovich feel any different about the AHL than he would the VHL or KHL. Earning minutes has a different meaning depending on where you come from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: This guy isn’t a spoiled kid ‘growing up’ in a milk toast suburb of Vancouver or any other rich NA city with holistic wellness centres. But how will he reach his full potential then?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: The guy is 6’2 202 lbs and isn’t even 18 yet. He looks like he has the solid mass to be able to handle a men’s league. There is a money component that some aren’t considering and what an AHL salary and signing bonus could mean in Belarus at this moment. This guy isn’t a spoiled kid ‘growing up’ in a milk toast suburb of Vancouver or any other rich NA city with holistic wellness centres. The QMHL might not be a feasible option for this kid, who may be carrying a lot more responsibility than we know. Podz wasn’t sheltered from men in his draft season, why would Klimovich feel any different about the AHL than he would the VHL or KHL. Earning minutes has a different meaning depending on where you come from. I do think he's going to get the chance to earn a spot on the AHL roster for sure. Green is pretty good at giving guys a real chance to compete for jobs and I do think the team would be very interested in having this guy in Abby, he'll help put bums in the seats for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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