oldnews Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Scottydzik said: Screw pool man play this kid he’s mean tough and bring different element to the team he's a great signing imo - I'm thrilled he came here - but no need to play him off his team-mates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Nice. Hope he can develop his game in Abby. Then join the big club like Bieksa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 We get injuries on D every season so I expect to see him in the line up at some point this coming season. Maybe he wins a spot out of camp. Lots of competition this season. The guys will have to come to camp ready to go. Welcome to our craziness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I would still like to try 11/7 Add a tough option on the 4th line. I asked my son, he played d as a kid at the Agrodome, what he thought. He said when a D partner went down, he said it turns into chess not checkers on figuring out what your partner is doing. We will have about 20 games where a defenseman has to leave the game early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: I would still like to try 11/7 Add a tough option on the 4th line. I asked my son, he played d as a kid at the Agrodome, what he thought. He said when a D partner went down, he said it turns into chess not checkers on figuring out what your partner is doing. We will have about 20 games where a defenseman has to leave the game early. Yes, that’s very true. When you’re playing 3-pairs and one of your normal 6 go down it can be very challenging. Growing up I had the same D-partner for 7 years. When he wasn’t there or got injured it was very hard adjusting to another partner. The coach would try various combos or switching me to the left. IMO when you have a 5 D game, it’s very hard. I’d rather play with 4 just about. I’d imagine at the nhl level it’s very different though, guys can probably better adjust, but I would think it throws them off a little bit. As for Keeper, I looked him up and hope that he gets a shot if we have injuries. Seems like a good player who tries hard and would play his guts off if in the big lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Would be nice if he and other RHD prospects make the jump to the NHL. We need to start thinking of replacing Hamonic and Schenn in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 9:47 AM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Brady Keeper was one of the Canucks’ targets in college free agency a couple years back, and Vancouver was in his shortlist, but he ended up signing with Florida. I had hoped we’d sign him out of college in 2019, so it’s nice to see him joining the organization two years later. Everything people have said already in this thread is true of Keeper. He’s tough as nails, willing to drop the gloves, and plays an aggressive, physical style of defence in his own end. He also has pretty good skating and stickhandling, and is definitely capable of moving the puck and joining the rush. Owns a heavy slap shot and a decent wrister. And has a very inspiring back story, as an indigenous kid who, despite having to overcome poverty and some serious hardships, beat the odds, making it all the way to signing an NHL contract and a life in professional hockey. As for the one-way deal, I think this probably signals where the Canucks feel Keeper fits on their depth chart, and their intentions for him. And there’s a good chance he had other similar offers, or that the two-way deals other teams offered had fairly high AHL salaries anyway. And even if Keeper only plays AHL for the Canucks, I think it’s a pretty damn good use of Francesco’s money. That $750K salary is going to mean a lot more to Keeper, his family, and his community, than it would to the average (white) player, with an upper middle class background, and generational wealth. Really great post, SID! Couldn't agree more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) I am stoked about this as a depth signing for us and a bonafide player in Abby. Sounds like a Jett Woo 2.0 with a bit more upside and snarl that the kid can definitely look up to on our AHL team. Edited August 3, 2021 by Odjick29willkillyou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 1:41 PM, BPA said: Nice. Hope he can develop his game in Abby. Then join the big club like Bieksa. It would be amazing if he becomes another Bieksa. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I'm not trying to be facetious, but I'm surprised teams don't go 9/9. You know you're essentially going to be rolling your top 3 lines most nights anyways, and the 4th line rarely gets more than 10 mins a night. If you play a grinding style, you know eventually your Dmen will find themselves injured, penalized, or both. Why not have an extra 3 spare to spell off the other 6? Would certainly make PKs a bit less of a chore for the D. In a few years I think the idea in itself is not that far off, i.e. it will be more common to handle the number of F:s and D:s in a more dynamic fashion. Short term I think it's far fetched. And also - while playing e.g. 17 vs 20 mins might seem minor by just looking at the numbers, in reality it's a lot and all coaches know this. That's why teams want to roll 4 lines especially during the regular season. If your top 6 is constantly over 20 mins they won't last the season because of fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stanleysteamersmyl Posted August 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2021 Hometown Hero TSN Video narrated by Jordan Tootoo. https://www.tsn.ca/video/tsn-original-a-kid-from-nowhere~1793635 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I like the purse strings being opened up a little bit with the one-way deals. That's a good way for our team to get the AHL guys and AHL/NHL tweeners they really want in our organization. If the org can afford it, why not pay our top guys in Abbotsford NHL money if it benefits the team? Easy choice for these players if they're seeing two-way deals from other teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I like the depth on D that the club has created this off season. 8 Dmen on the roster (if you include Rathbone), plus depth guys in Abby like Keeper, Bowey, Burroughs, (and maybe) Brisebois. All of these guys are able to step up if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 6:20 PM, stanleysteamersmyl said: Hometown Hero TSN Video narrated by Jordan Tootoo. https://www.tsn.ca/video/tsn-original-a-kid-from-nowhere~1793635 This is such a great story, way to go Dad and everybody who supported him. I am really hoping we see him play some games this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 A lot of comments to the effect that he's tough, drops the gloves, can and will fight, defends his team-mates...and that's good and all...but..... Gonna go against the grain here though - because it's tiring, and disheartening seeing guys like Ferland (or Tootoo) being the first responders - punching up weight classes, doing whatever is necessary, having their careers abbreviated and their lives compromised by concussions suffered after the whistles (and not limited to indigenous players, but...). I'm glad this team signed Ferland to the deal they did, (I'm also glad they signed Dorsett to the deal they did) - and I'm glad to see Keeper getting a one way deal to make a decent living whether or not he makes the NHL club. Obviously warriors will be warriors - but, he's 'tough as nails' in part because he's absolutely had to be. The point here - the equal and opposite idea - that team-mates have his back in kind. Quote “I like both (the scoring and the physical part),” he said. “I think I’m better at the scoring part though.” https://www.mjhlhockey.ca/ocns-keeper-brothers-living-the-dream 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/3/2021 at 9:35 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I'm not trying to be facetious, but I'm surprised teams don't go 9/9. You know you're essentially going to be rolling your top 3 lines most nights anyways, and the 4th line rarely gets more than 10 mins a night. If you play a grinding style, you know eventually your Dmen will find themselves injured, penalized, or both. Why not have an extra 3 spare to spell off the other 6? Would certainly make PKs a bit less of a chore for the D. Why not 10/8 can roll 4 D paring or roll 3 forward lines, 3 defensive lines and have the extra slots as specialists for both the forwards and D - like a PKer or Faceoff monster etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) On 8/12/2021 at 11:34 AM, oldnews said: A lot of comments to the effect that he's tough, drops the gloves, can and will fight, defends his team-mates...and that's good and all...but..... Gonna go against the grain here though - because it's tiring, and disheartening seeing guys like Ferland (or Tootoo) being the first responders - punching up weight classes, doing whatever is necessary, having their careers abbreviated and their lives compromised by concussions suffered after the whistles (and not limited to indigenous players, but...). I'm glad this team signed Ferland to the deal they did, (I'm also glad they signed Dorsett to the deal they did) - and I'm glad to see Keeper getting a one way deal to make a decent living whether or not he makes the NHL club. Obviously warriors will be warriors - but, he's 'tough as nails' in part because he's absolutely had to be. The point here - the equal and opposite idea - that team-mates have his back in kind. https://www.mjhlhockey.ca/ocns-keeper-brothers-living-the-dream Good point. Toughness is about team toughness. Everybody has to have everybody else's back. It can't be up to one or two designated tough guys to take on all the rough stuff. But that said we need more guys with a bit of pushback and I'm rooting for him to make the team. It's a nice story to see a guy from a small town in the north to make the big show. Go Keeper Go! Edited August 14, 2021 by nux_win grammar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 11:34 AM, oldnews said: A lot of comments to the effect that he's tough, drops the gloves, can and will fight, defends his team-mates...and that's good and all...but..... Gonna go against the grain here though - because it's tiring, and disheartening seeing guys like Ferland (or Tootoo) being the first responders - punching up weight classes, doing whatever is necessary, having their careers abbreviated and their lives compromised by concussions suffered after the whistles (and not limited to indigenous players, but...). I'm glad this team signed Ferland to the deal they did, (I'm also glad they signed Dorsett to the deal they did) - and I'm glad to see Keeper getting a one way deal to make a decent living whether or not he makes the NHL club. Obviously warriors will be warriors - but, he's 'tough as nails' in part because he's absolutely had to be. The point here - the equal and opposite idea - that team-mates have his back in kind. https://www.mjhlhockey.ca/ocns-keeper-brothers-living-the-dream Guys like Ferland and Dorsett played that way because they loved playing that way. It was in complete detriment to their health but they loved it. Gino played like a fkn savage because he loved it. Gino became a legend because Pavel loved him and fed him points. Those guys are the most loved in the locker room. Most of those guys if they didn't play that way would never have sniffed an NHL ice surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Welcome to the west coast Brady, you’ll be loved here. Stay strong physically and your mind will multiply everything you give it the capacity to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Bell said: Guys like Ferland and Dorsett played that way because they loved playing that way. It was in complete detriment to their health but they loved it. Gino played like a fkn savage because he loved it. Gino became a legend because Pavel loved him and fed him points. Those guys are the most loved in the locker room. Most of those guys if they didn't play that way would never have sniffed an NHL ice surface that might, in part be true (regarding 'loving it') - might not be - only they know the extent to which it is - I don't pretend to speak for them, but I've heard and read the testimony of plenty of NHL enforcers that were pushed and coerced into it, and who did not necessarily 'love' it - if you have a quote from either of them to the effect you're claiming, great - otherwise you're just taking the liberty of speaking for them - but really - it's not really the point, regardless. And the point you make about never sniffing NHL ice otherwise is only true of some of these guys (both Ferland and Dorsett were NHLers whether or not they punched faces imo) - but again, that being the only track to the NHL for some others doesn't really qualify that these guys necessarily 'loved it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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