oldnews Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: Why are people comparing him to Sutter? In the three years leading up to his 4.3 million dollar contract in Vancouver he averaged .37 points per game and had poor underlying defensive stats. Danault has averaged .6 points per game (nearly double Sutter) the last 3 seasons and has much better underlying numbers. Even if we put them as equal defensively and look straight at numbers, over 82 games you would be paying Sutter $143k per point vs $112k for Danault. The cap has also increased 15% so If you tack that on we paid Sutter ~5 million or $164k per point, a 47% premium. I am not saying Danault is a good contract, just nowhere near Sutter bad. To be in line we would have given Sutter about 2.9 million. As for their current contracts they aren’t in the same realm and not at all worth comparing. But bang for buck Sutter is a better deal on his new contract, worse on his old contract. what? not a fan of making claims like this - one-liner dropped in as a claim - with zero qualification. can you explain how you arrive at this 'poor underlying defensive stats' claim? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) On 7/30/2021 at 3:58 PM, oldnews said: what? not a fan of making claims like this - one-liner dropped in as a claim - with zero qualification. can you explain how you arrive at this 'poor underlying defensive stats' claim? Perhaps I was a bit unfair. I like Sutter, but he simply made too much for what he brought. Whether underlying stats or point totals I think it is silly for people to act like Danault contract is so horrible while Sutter’s was fine. I don’t have my paid subscription anymore to pull up the numbers, but here are a few notes from articles at the time and card from the last 3 seasons. By the way I loved the new contract: Edited August 1, 2021 by canucklehead44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: Perhaps I was a bit unfair. I like Sutter, but he simply made too much for what he brought. I don’t have my paid subscription anymore to pull up the numbers, but here are a few notes from articles at the time: that is some absolutely horrible hero-chart quality nonsense / 'material' wadr. misleading, cherry-picked negative value pseudo-'analytics' at it's worst. but I can't disagree with you, yourself - that the frequently injured Sutter wasn't able to live up to his contract....which is quite different than denying the quality of player he was when acquired and/or not injured.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, oldnews said: that is some absolutely horrible hero-chart quality nonsense / 'material' wadr. misleading, cherry-picked negative value pseudo-'analytics' at it's worst. but I can't disagree with you, yourself - that the frequently injured Sutter wasn't able to live up to his contract....which is quite different than denying the quality of player he was when acquired and/or not injured.... Haha you are hilarious dude, I love it Sutter was a fine bottom 6 warrior who is/was a solid penalty killer but isn’t the selke level shut down specialist he was made out and paid to be. But you are right - the injuries really hampered his value. Edited August 1, 2021 by canucklehead44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 9:29 PM, Elias Pettersson said: That's almost $1 million per goal. I'd love to get paid $1 million per goal... You'd like to get paid nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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