ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I thought about this as a possibility a few years ago in sports. Like really with how much money is being gambled out there, what's really stopping a team from throwing a game to make some extra money? Like if the pay out is that big and a team says hey we can handle a loss for a game, what's really stopping them from doing it? Like their getting paid good money already and losing a game isn't going to make them lose money they get paid no matter what, but if they can lose a game that has a good pay out what's really stopping them? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: I thought about this as a possibility a few years ago in sports. Like really with how much money is being gambled out there, what's really stopping a team from throwing a game to make some extra money? Like if the pay out is that big and a team says hey we can handle a loss for a game, what's really stopping them from doing it? Like their getting paid good money already and losing a game isn't going to make them lose money they get paid no matter what, but if they can lose a game that has a good pay out what's really stopping them? It's nothing new. Basketball is NOTORIOUS for gambling. They specifically have numerous ref scandals involving them betting in games that they can control. We just haven't discovered it yet in hockey. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, sonoman said: And some still want this azzhat on the Canucks. I remember before San Jose signed him so many people on this board wanted him, I always felt he was a cancer in the locker room especially hearing the stories from Winnipeg, then the stories continued in Buffalo hence why I never wanted him, many people were convinced here he had grown up and he wasn't the same person as he was in the past, I didn't agree with that because of the stories out of Buffalo still, just glad he never came to Vancouver. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dazzle said: It's nothing new. Basketball is NOTORIOUS for gambling. They specifically have numerous ref scandals involving them betting in games that they can control. We just haven't discovered it yet in hockey. I don't even know if it is a thing or not, but the thought of it being a possibility definitely lingers in the back of my mind sometimes, especially when you see some of the payouts that can happen when a team who's supposed to easily beat a certain team just doesn't for some reason.... I tend to think outside the box sometimes and keep an open mind on all possibilities, and this one definitely has been something I've thought about the last couple years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Why would the NHL or anyone else be surprised with this when he filed for bankruptcy earlier this year citing sports betting and gambling for his $26.8M in debt? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Wow that's quite the statement to make imo. i mean the relationship part. gambling is not their only problem, i think that's clear as day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 There’s some hockey players that I watch that are just rats and I hate the way they play, but a tiny part of me knows that they’re doing whatever takes to make their team and play their role to support their loved ones at home. Also I’m sure they’re decent humans off the ice who do their part to help the local communities. But Evander Kane just comes off as a garbage human being. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rubik said: i mean the relationship part. gambling is not their only problem, i think that's clear as day. Yeah but how is it her fault, if true sounds like he just wants to party instead of supporting his family? Sounds like his actions are ruining his family relationship not her choices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Just thinking, how much does the NHL invest in education and training of new (and current) players in terms of various potential addictions. Perhaps it is not enough and maybe that should be a foundation part of the collective bargaining agreement. This may be a chance for the league to show some real leadership in an area that I guess may have been a reality for many years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Poor wife and kids. If this is true, and I doubt there's much reason to think it's not, I can imagine heavy fines at the very least towards him. I truly hope Kane gets his life together because his wife isn't gonna have infinite patience and when a man loses his money, job, wife, and kids, it can definitely get pretty grim. Hope he wakes up before it comes to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -AJ- Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 Another reason why I'm so happy Benning drafts for and trades for character. Exhibit A: [insert Boeser Da Beauty League clip here, because I'm too stupid to figure it out] 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 He just never grew up, I remember seeing a post on Twitter a while back and it was of him showing off stacks and stacks of money 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) "Evander, Commissioner Bettman for you on line 1." Edited August 1, 2021 by nuckin_futz 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewbieCanuckFan Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Just one of the best hitters to ever play the game, definitely can't say the same about Kane Chuck Norris FACT: MLB outlawed Chuck Norris from being a baseball player because he'd be able to hit home runs without the use of a bat. He'd just roundhouse kick the ball into the upper deck of any stadium. Edited August 1, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patel Bure Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sonoman said: And some still want this azzhat on the Canucks. I was one of those guys that wanted Evander Kane but not anymore. Good riddance to him. Hope he gets his life on track however. Edited August 1, 2021 by Patel Bure 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Dazzle Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 57 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: I don't even know if it is a thing or not, but the thought of it being a possibility definitely lingers in the back of my mind sometimes, especially when you see some of the payouts that can happen when a team who's supposed to easily beat a certain team just doesn't for some reason.... I tend to think outside the box sometimes and keep an open mind on all possibilities, and this one definitely has been something I've thought about the last couple years. I think we all wish hockey doesn't involve something fishy. However, I think corruption exists everywhere. The NHL tries to put lids on things that make itself look bad, rather than to treat the problem. We see this with the sexual scandals involving teams like Chicago and Pittsburgh (former coach's wife complained she was touched/coach got fired for "performance reasons"). Then there's stuff involving handing punishment, like New Jersey. https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/devils-kovalchuk-penalty-reduced-get-first-round-pick-back/ The sanctions originally imposed on the Club included a significant fine, the forfeiture of the Club’s third-round draft selection in 2011 (which was forfeited) and the forfeiture of a first-round draft selection which has been deferred by the Club until this year in accordance with the terms of the original penalty. As a result, as it relates to the portion of the discipline relating to the first-round draft pick, the Devils stand to forfeit it entirely in the upcoming 2014 NHL Draft. The Devils recently applied to the League for reconsideration and relief from a portion of the original penalty, citing primarily changes in circumstances which, in the Club's view, changed the appropriateness of the sanctions initially imposed. What the actual &^@# is this? NJ knew the rules and the consequences, broke them anyway, and then got their first rounder back. "Changes in circumstances" seems very accurate to how the Luongo contract was structured. The rules for it were changed after the fact, and we got slapped with a recapture penalty. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz19 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) I am no Kane fan but innocent until proven guilty folks. I find in today's social media world where people love to pile on controversy and drama, any accusation automatically means guilt. We have no idea if his wife has a grudge against him and wants to create more chaos in his life, etc. People lie all the time and make false accusations all the time. As someone who's studied law, It's good practice in your life in general, across all issues, to never make your mind up on an initial information, assess all facts then decide. When you make assumptions on limited information and others 'opinions' on the same limited information, you simply are trying to be part of the 'gang' not being an intelligent and objective observer. Do I think Kane is a bit of a goof, yes, but that opinion is based on his public persona, I don't know him, that also has no bearing on him trying to throw games and tbh, he's not a goalie, its not even like he has much of an impact, unless he's firing pucks into his own net, which clearly he isnt. On top of that, if you look at his stats, he certainly has been putting up very strong numbers for a number of years and played with some fire. Some simple research makes me see these accusations as suspect. Edited August 1, 2021 by Podz19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: What's up with our Vancouver boys? they can't handle the bright lights and temptations of the US 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz19 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) double post Edited August 1, 2021 by Podz19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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