[Proposal] TOR - VAN

[PunjabiCanucks]

52 minutes ago, BPA said:

Nope.

 

Boeser is younger and a sniper that we need.  He's close to becoming a 30+ goal scorer.  If anything it would be Miller or Myers traded out.

 

Plus, I just got a Boeser jersy. So I'm biased and want him to stay.  Lol. 

 

3 hours ago, Patel Bure said:

I do believe that IF

 

1) Podkolzin emerges as a legit top 6 forward this season

 

AND

 

2) Someone like Klimovich emerges from the farm to the point where management sees him as a realistic 3rd line RW option next season (or, basically in the same spot that Podkolzin has been penciled in this season)

 

THEN

 

Boeser would be used as a trading piece.  Like Boeser to NYI for Ryan Pulock..........and yes, I have now officially hijacked this thread a la Bane 2012 style.

I do believe in 2 years our Top 9 looks sick

 

Miller/ Petey/Hoglander-  Petey/ Klimovich-  Boeser/ Garland

Hoglander -- Horvat --- Garland/ Klimovich

Klimovich /Poldkozin - Dickinson - Poldkozin / Klimovich

 

2 lines that can score and play offensive minutes

3rd line that can check and hit and pot a goal every other game

 

Ofc the only hard part is finding natural LW talent

 

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Myers, Joulevi, Rathbone, DiPietro , Miller (if he starts to age badly) are all potential trade chips

 

[PunjabiCanucks]

Just now, PunjabiCanucks said:

 

I do believe in 2 years our Top 9 looks sick

 

Miller/ Petey/Hoglander-  Petey/ Klimovich-  Boeser/ Garland

Hoglander -- Horvat --- Garland/ Klimovich

Klimovich /Poldkozin - Dickinson - Poldkozin / Klimovich

 

2 lines that can score and play offensive minutes

3rd line that can check and hit and pot a goal every other game

 

Ofc the only hard part is finding natural LW talent

 

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Myers, Joulevi, Rathbone, DiPietro , Miller (if he starts to age badly) are all potential trade chips

 

Pearson should be moved in his 3rd year unless he scores 20G for us 

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, Dats hockey said:

can you just tell everyone you just want to win with vancouver 

I only want to win with Vancouver…. 

[deus.ex.makina]

57 minutes ago, Maddogy said:

Why is a Toronto Maple Leafs fan starting a thread in Canucks thread? Get lost 

I’m a Canuck fan since 1994, and I don’t even know that Toronto have fans. Just barely heard that they have a hockey team. 

[CanucksCountry]

10 hours ago, deus.ex.makina said:

the center argument is fair.

we know that Petey isn't good at faceoffs neither. which means on defensive FO you need to switch him with Miller. 
i say go for Miller at 1C and Marner on his wing. 
 

The issus is Miller isn't a natural center they may use him for faceoffs but once the puck is dropped he goes back to his natural winger role I just don't see why would we trade Pettey unless in a package were you can upgrade on him

[HKSR]

Petey's rights??  What if he decides to sign for $7.5M? or $8M?  So now we have Marner being paid way more, and he's not even a centre?  And the leafs get cap relief while receiving a 1st line centre? 

 

NO.  Just NO.

[qwijibo]

5 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Petey's rights??  What if he decides to sign for $7.5M? or $8M?  So now we have Marner being paid way more, and he's not even a centre?  And the leafs get cap relief while receiving a 1st line centre? 

 

NO.  Just NO.

To be fair. Pettersson being a centre isn’t really a selling feature for the leafs.  They already have a lot tied up in Matthews and Tavares 

[deus.ex.makina]

56 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Petey's rights??  What if he decides to sign for $7.5M? or $8M?  So now we have Marner being paid way more, and he's not even a centre?  And the leafs get cap relief while receiving a 1st line centre? 

 

NO.  Just NO.

We re talking about Mitch Marner. 

 

Way above PPG, dunno why you guyz screaming about that like it was foolish idea. 
Do you really close the door for a guy like that : 
 (Credit PuckPedia) 

					Scoring					Goals				Assists			Shots			Ice Time
Season	Age	Tm	Lg	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TSA	TOI	ATOI	FOW	FOL	FO%	BLK	HIT	TK	GV	Awards
Career		5 yrs	NHL	355	103	255	358	48	122	81	21	1	19	164	86	5	913	11.3	1742	6769	19:04	82	93	46.9	185	148	347	319
2016-17	19	TOR	NHL	77	19	42	61	0	38	15	4	0	5	25	17	0	176	10.8	325	1294	16:49	14	23	37.8	39	41	67	62	AR-1,Calder-5
2017-18	20	TOR	NHL	82	22	47	69	-1	26	14	8	0	2	28	19	0	194	11.3	399	1344	16:23	50	45	52.6	25	31	85	50
2018-19	21	TOR	NHL	82	26	68	94	22	22	22	3	1	5	48	18	2	233	11.2	446	1625	19:49	7	5	58.3	43	29	78	67	AS-3,Byng-18,Selke-14
2019-20	22	TOR	NHL	59	16	51	67	6	16	10	6	0	2	32	18	1	154	10.4	277	1272	21:33	7	19	26.9	37	24	64	71	AS-5,Byng-30,Selke-33
2020-21	23	TOR	NHL	55	20	47	67	21	20	20	0	0	5	31	14	2	156	12.8	295	1233	22:26	4	1	80.0	41	23	53	69	AS-1,Byng-24,Hart-19,Selke-10

 

Sure we need to retool the lines but I’m not confident in Petey’s health. We may have to juggle the lines as soon as he takes a bad hit anyway. 
 

and since Petey’s recent quotes, I prefer a guy who search what he can do for his team, instead which is the team that can do the more for him. By the past I ve already noticed some cocky comment or behavior. Those quotes sell the deal. 
Marner is the better player, can stay healthy, and can stay low. 

Edited August 13, 2021 by deus.ex.makina

[DownUndaCanuck]

I guess sliding Miller to center and having Marner on the wing isn't the worst idea. As much as we all love Petey, Marner is right now on another level offensively. Sure, he hasn't performed in the playoffs yet, but he's only 24.

 

It's a risky move but it just depends on how much we believe Petey is going to become a true star. I think we've seen glimpses of his competitive, tough streak when he's been attacked and love it - that's what we want to see more of. It's something Marner doesn't really have. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it'll be the difference between performing in the playoffs or not. Both of them are smaller guys who are going to get bullied, Marner is putting up bigger offensive numbers (albeit with better linemates) but Pettersson does have a character about him that could go a long way.

[IBatch]

EPs Swedish quotes translated into English ... wow he wants to be somewhere that wins.   

 

CDC reaction: 

[IBatch]

4 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

I guess sliding Miller to center and having Marner on the wing isn't the worst idea. As much as we all love Petey, Marner is right now on another level offensively. Sure, he hasn't performed in the playoffs yet, but he's only 24.

 

It's a risky move but it just depends on how much we believe Petey is going to become a true star. I think we've seen glimpses of his competitive, tough streak when he's been attacked and love it - that's what we want to see more of. It's something Marner doesn't really have. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it'll be the difference between performing in the playoffs or not. Both of them are smaller guys who are going to get bullied, Marner is putting up bigger offensive numbers (albeit with better linemates) but Pettersson does have a character about him that could go a long way.

I'm hoping Miller stays at C and we roll three scoring lines this year.   Wouldn't even label them 1-2-3.    Dickinson doesn't score and is better suited on the last line with Motte and Sutter as a shut down line.   We won without EP 8-3-1 or something until Covid.     

 

That said the second thing id do, if we kept the lotto line together ... is move EP to the wing and play Miller as the C.   Watch him explode in that case.    If EP signs a bridge ... three lines for sure, it would help keep the cap down for both Miller and EP too... i'm evil lol.   More then anything i do think that our third line hasn't worked well for us in years.   We don't have the makings for two shutdown lines right now.   Our "loaded" line isn't top tier either (so far at least).   Balanced scoring is an avenue for a cup(s)... as is strength down the middle and goaltending, two things we have right now. 

Edited August 15, 2021 by IBatch