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City of Glendale will not renew arrangements with Coyotes to play at Gila River Arena past this season

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On 8/19/2021 at 1:26 PM, gurn said:

Kelowna/Kamloops.

It would keep the Canuck travel distance down.

In all seriousness, any Canadian city with a population over 100k would probably provide better fa  support for this team than Phoenix has.

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18 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said:

This will get settled, once the current people in city hall has been replaced.

are the current people in city hall the problem ? I suggest that you read the following statement from the management of the Arizona coyotes:

 

“We have already launched an investigation to determine how this could have happened and initial indications are that it appears to be the result of an unfortunate human error. Regardless, we deeply regret the inconvenience this has caused. We will make sure that by (Wednesday) morning, the Arizona Coyotes are current on all of our bills and owe no state or local taxes whatsoever. And we will take immediate steps to ensure that nothing like this can ever possibly happen again.”

 

sounds like a person within the coyotes organization caused the chaos.

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On 12/9/2021 at 10:08 AM, GB5 said:

In all seriousness, any Canadian city with a population over 100k would probably provide better fa  support for this team than Phoenix has.

This team has not really been given a fair shot in Phoenix. I don't know if you have ever been to the facility (I have a few times), but it's built in possibly the worst possible location of where you could have a hockey team and grow a fan base.

 

If you look at how Vegas has done, you should be able to achieve solid results, if you have the team somewhere that you have access to the population base. When they moved to where they are right now, it was under the great business concept of, "If you build it, they will come"

 

They didn't have the population base within easy access to the team, they assumed that they would be able to create an economic and housing boom out in Glendale by bringing the team out there. Then the economy tanked.

 

If the team had stayed closer to downtown Phoenix, they would likely have been self sustaining within about 6 to 8 years of moving there from Winnipeg.

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On 12/10/2021 at 10:51 AM, JM_ said:

 

yeah, not getting paid can make people "edgy" :lol:

 

I'd make Bettman pre-pay next years taxes and arena fees if they want to stay. 

 

 

Pretty sure that's what's going on behind closed doors. 

They haven't even been approved for the Tempe project. Let alone break ground. That's probably 2-4 years away. 

So it's Gila for now, and I bet they are going to want a hell of a lot up front. 

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2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Pretty sure that's what's going on behind closed doors. 

They haven't even been approved for the Tempe project. Let alone break ground. That's probably 2-4 years away. 

So it's Gila for now, and I bet they are going to want a hell of a lot up front. 

I mean why not? Glendale is going to lose them no matter what so I'd make them pre-pay, or go pound sand. The NHL has no leverage at all.

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On 12/10/2021 at 6:13 PM, mll said:

 

I don't understand why Bettman is so defensive and over protective with the Yotes. 

 

I remember when Winnipeg got a team back he said to the Jets fanbase "this will only work if they reach a certain number of season tickets"

 

But for the Yotes despie having poor attendance and scandals like this .. everything is fine 

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16 hours ago, iinatcc said:

I don't understand why Bettman is so defensive and over protective with the Yotes. 

 

I remember when Winnipeg got a team back he said to the Jets fanbase "this will only work if they reach a certain number of season tickets"

 

But for the Yotes despie having poor attendance and scandals like this .. everything is fine 

Phoenix is the #10 broadcast market in the USA. That is why Bettman doesn’t want to walk away from the area. He just signed a USA mega deal with USA broadcasters and maybe that demands exposure over all top markets. 
 

If the Yoyes ownership are looking at a new arena it will take years to build. Glendale’s refusal to extend is likely an opening negotiating position for an extension. Since finances seem to be in question they probably want guarantees. 
 

I didn’t bother looking at Houston’s market size but it is not insignificant and it has a hockey history. Texas is growing fast as well. Lots of good reasons to relocate there. I think the Yotes ownership group would sell if they could. The current configuration is a constant money drain. I don’t know what they have invested but that has to be weighed against any possible capital gain on a revitalized operation in Phoenix. It will take years. I don’t see it.

 

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On 12/27/2021 at 8:49 AM, Boudrias said:

Phoenix is the #10 broadcast market in the USA. That is why Bettman doesn’t want to walk away from the area. He just signed a USA mega deal with USA broadcasters and maybe that demands exposure over all top markets. 
 

If the Yoyes ownership are looking at a new arena it will take years to build. Glendale’s refusal to extend is likely an opening negotiating position for an extension. Since finances seem to be in question they probably want guarantees. 
 

I didn’t bother looking at Houston’s market size but it is not insignificant and it has a hockey history. Texas is growing fast as well. Lots of good reasons to relocate there. I think the Yotes ownership group would sell if they could. The current configuration is a constant money drain. I don’t know what they have invested but that has to be weighed against any possible capital gain on a revitalized operation in Phoenix. It will take years. I don’t see it.

 

Isn't Houston the 8th largest? Add in Dallas's and has to be one of the largest in the US and a great rivalry too.

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