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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Isn’t the college rink 5,000 seats?  

Something like that, they were just talking about it on 650.

 

Not sure if it was in relation to this rink, but basically you buy a ticket and can stand wherever you want.  :towel:

 

 

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The Craig Morgan article:

Coyotes in advanced discussions with ASU to use new multi-purpose venue as interim arena solution

 

The Coyotes are in the advanced stages of discussions with Arizona State University and arena manager OVG Facilities (a division of the Oak View Group) to use ASU’s new multipurpose arena as their temporary home, sources familiar with the situation confirmed to PHNX Sports. The arena, which is scheduled for completion this fall, would serve as the Coyotes’ arena for all home games while they await approval and construction of their proposed arena along the south bank of Rio Salado in Tempe.

 

Per sources, the Coyotes are negotiating on a three-year deal with an option for a fourth year if construction of the permanent arena takes longer than hoped. ASU’s new arena will only seat 5,000 spectators so the venue is significantly smaller than other NHL arenas, or even Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which currently seats about 10,000 because some of its risers have been decommissioned and removed.

 

When asked about using an unconventional venue such as ASU’s, NHL commissioner Bill Daly said the league is not opposed to such a move.

“While we have arena standards, we would approach the entire situation in a way intended to accommodate the club’s needs in effectuating a successful transition to a new venue,” Daly wrote in an email. “While there may very well be some, I can’t think of any hard and fast rules that couldn’t be relaxed to accommodate what is necessary.”

When asked specifically if the league would approve the Coyotes playing in an arena with a seating capacity as low as 5,000, Daly said it “depends on the totality of circumstances, but I wouldn’t rule it out.”

 

Due to NCAA compliance issues, the Coyotes would not be permitted to use Sun Devil hockey’s team areas. They would have to build their own, without contribution from ASU, which does not need the extra areas or it would have already built them. One source estimated that cost between $15 and $20 million, with all of that money coming out of owner Alex Meruelo’s pocket.

Because of the necessary construction, the deal would have to be approved by the Arizona Board of Regents.

 

It’s still unclear how the NHLPA would feel about the decision, but the league and the NHLPA have begun discussions regarding the Coyotes’ plans for next season. There are issues with team-space requirements, revenue sharing and more that the PA will need to understand.

 

“The Coyotes’ anticipated move in 2022-23 from Gila River Arena in Glendale to a temporary Arizona venue raises a number of matters that the league and the NHLPA will need to work through,” a spokesperson for the NHLPA said. “Ideally, these matters will be sorted out well in advance of next season.”

 

Given the estimated cost of building team areas at ASU, the likely cost of necessary improvements at an existing practice facility, (the Coyotes are still exploring those options with the Ice Den Scottsdale a strong possibility), and the losses that Meruelo will incur by playing in front of smaller crowds at an arena that will not provide him with a lot of corporate sponsorship money or ancillary revenue, it’s fair to wonder why the Coyotes wouldn’t just spend the estimated $40 million to $50 million on renovations at the Coliseum where they could play and practice. 

 

For one, playing in Tempe would allow the organization to establish a partnership and relationship with the city immediately; one that the Coyotes hope will flourish in a central location much closer to the vast majority of their premium season ticket holders. There are also revenue issues at the Coliseum that would create financial losses for Meruelo. It does not have any luxury suites. ASU’s arena includes 20 luxury suites, two group suites, a large club lounge and event-level premium club seats. Because the Coliseum is a state entity, it would also require state approval. It’s unclear how long that process would take.

 

In addition, the time needed to make the improvements to the Coliseum would not allow the Coyotes to play there at the start of next season. The Coyotes could have begun those improvements sooner, but sources said that they were under the assumption that they would be able to continue their year-to-year lease with the City of Glendale. When it became clear that this would be their last season at Gila River Arena, it was too late to renovate the Coliseum as an option for next season. 

 

Scheduling will be another issue for the Coyotes. Sun Devil hockey’s schedule is already in place for the 2022-23 season and ASU hockey will maintain priority for all future dates, a source said. ASU has 24 home dates next season and all of them are on Friday or Saturday with 7 p.m. starts. The Coyotes would need to work around that schedule with some less than optimal dates.

 

The multi-purpose facility is also slated to host ASU’s wrestling and gymnastics teams, concerts, conferences, youth competitions and other events.

 

The City of Glendale, through arena manager ASM Global, has told the Coyotes that they must vacate Gila River Arena by June 30; the end of the fiscal year.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has remained steadfast in his assertion that the Coyotes will remain in Arizona. So has the Meruelo ownership group.

“Alex is committed, Alex has the resources, and the Coyotes aren’t going anywhere,” Bettman said from the NHL Board of Governors meetings in December. “Well, they’re going somewhere else other than Glendale, but it’s in the greater Phoenix area.”

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25 minutes ago, mll said:

The Craig Morgan article:

Coyotes in advanced discussions with ASU to use new multi-purpose venue as interim arena solution

 

The Coyotes are in the advanced stages of discussions with Arizona State University and arena manager OVG Facilities (a division of the Oak View Group) to use ASU’s new multipurpose arena as their temporary home, sources familiar with the situation confirmed to PHNX Sports. The arena, which is scheduled for completion this fall, would serve as the Coyotes’ arena for all home games while they await approval and construction of their proposed arena along the south bank of Rio Salado in Tempe.

 

Per sources, the Coyotes are negotiating on a three-year deal with an option for a fourth year if construction of the permanent arena takes longer than hoped. ASU’s new arena will only seat 5,000 spectators so the venue is significantly smaller than other NHL arenas, or even Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which currently seats about 10,000 because some of its risers have been decommissioned and removed.

 

When asked about using an unconventional venue such as ASU’s, NHL commissioner Bill Daly said the league is not opposed to such a move.

“While we have arena standards, we would approach the entire situation in a way intended to accommodate the club’s needs in effectuating a successful transition to a new venue,” Daly wrote in an email. “While there may very well be some, I can’t think of any hard and fast rules that couldn’t be relaxed to accommodate what is necessary.”

When asked specifically if the league would approve the Coyotes playing in an arena with a seating capacity as low as 5,000, Daly said it “depends on the totality of circumstances, but I wouldn’t rule it out.”

 

Due to NCAA compliance issues, the Coyotes would not be permitted to use Sun Devil hockey’s team areas. They would have to build their own, without contribution from ASU, which does not need the extra areas or it would have already built them. One source estimated that cost between $15 and $20 million, with all of that money coming out of owner Alex Meruelo’s pocket.

Because of the necessary construction, the deal would have to be approved by the Arizona Board of Regents.

 

It’s still unclear how the NHLPA would feel about the decision, but the league and the NHLPA have begun discussions regarding the Coyotes’ plans for next season. There are issues with team-space requirements, revenue sharing and more that the PA will need to understand.

 

“The Coyotes’ anticipated move in 2022-23 from Gila River Arena in Glendale to a temporary Arizona venue raises a number of matters that the league and the NHLPA will need to work through,” a spokesperson for the NHLPA said. “Ideally, these matters will be sorted out well in advance of next season.”

 

Given the estimated cost of building team areas at ASU, the likely cost of necessary improvements at an existing practice facility, (the Coyotes are still exploring those options with the Ice Den Scottsdale a strong possibility), and the losses that Meruelo will incur by playing in front of smaller crowds at an arena that will not provide him with a lot of corporate sponsorship money or ancillary revenue, it’s fair to wonder why the Coyotes wouldn’t just spend the estimated $40 million to $50 million on renovations at the Coliseum where they could play and practice. 

 

For one, playing in Tempe would allow the organization to establish a partnership and relationship with the city immediately; one that the Coyotes hope will flourish in a central location much closer to the vast majority of their premium season ticket holders. There are also revenue issues at the Coliseum that would create financial losses for Meruelo. It does not have any luxury suites. ASU’s arena includes 20 luxury suites, two group suites, a large club lounge and event-level premium club seats. Because the Coliseum is a state entity, it would also require state approval. It’s unclear how long that process would take.

 

In addition, the time needed to make the improvements to the Coliseum would not allow the Coyotes to play there at the start of next season. The Coyotes could have begun those improvements sooner, but sources said that they were under the assumption that they would be able to continue their year-to-year lease with the City of Glendale. When it became clear that this would be their last season at Gila River Arena, it was too late to renovate the Coliseum as an option for next season. 

 

Scheduling will be another issue for the Coyotes. Sun Devil hockey’s schedule is already in place for the 2022-23 season and ASU hockey will maintain priority for all future dates, a source said. ASU has 24 home dates next season and all of them are on Friday or Saturday with 7 p.m. starts. The Coyotes would need to work around that schedule with some less than optimal dates.

 

The multi-purpose facility is also slated to host ASU’s wrestling and gymnastics teams, concerts, conferences, youth competitions and other events.

 

The City of Glendale, through arena manager ASM Global, has told the Coyotes that they must vacate Gila River Arena by June 30; the end of the fiscal year.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has remained steadfast in his assertion that the Coyotes will remain in Arizona. So has the Meruelo ownership group.

“Alex is committed, Alex has the resources, and the Coyotes aren’t going anywhere,” Bettman said from the NHL Board of Governors meetings in December. “Well, they’re going somewhere else other than Glendale, but it’s in the greater Phoenix area.”

….as Canadian team revenues prop up this little freak show of a franchise more and more.,.I wonder where the owners draw a line? 5000 seat capacity won’t generate much revenue….worse what if they can’t even fill a 5000 seat arena with fans…that would look so bad….actually I’ve change my mind I wanna see this play out lol…then move this team to Canada again where it belongs.

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4 hours ago, -DLC- said:

Something like that, they were just talking about it on 650.

 

Not sure if it was in relation to this rink, but basically you buy a ticket and can stand wherever you want.  :towel:

 

 

Yes it is a 5000 seat arena (or will be) my question is if they can’t sell out that building will the NHL finally give up on this mess in Arizona and move the team? 

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How's it feel to be boned Mr. Aqua?

Your fans and you are paying to keep that team a float, as a league duty- the same league that got you to sign onto the recapture rule.

 

boned and boned, again.

 

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7 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said:

….as Canadian team revenues prop up this little freak show of a franchise more and more.,.I wonder where the owners draw a line? 5000 seat capacity won’t generate much revenue….worse what if they can’t even fill a 5000 seat arena with fans…that would look so bad….actually I’ve change my mind I wanna see this play out lol…then move this team to Canada again where it belongs.

I was coming on to post exactly this.

 

For context, the Abbotsford arena holds about 7500 including luxury boxes and seating for hockey.  UBC holds the same capacity.  This option is a big step down from those…

 

It is one thing to do revenue sharing to get teams through tough times as it helps the league be stronger and who knows if your team needs that help at some point.

 

A permanent business model where the Arizona owners have zero capability to operate sustainably and require other owners to write cheques for millions of dollars is a much tougher ask.  Especially tough when having a team play in an arena smaller than many minor league ones makes the whole league look bad.  Worse when a “major” league has to adjust its schedule around college games rather than the reverse.

 

It would be different if another arena was actually under construction and this was just a bandaid due to timing.  There are no prospects for a new arena anywhere on the horizon.  Even if shovels went in the ground today, it is two years or more before they can move in.  Nothing is even planned or designed, so that is a 4-5 year window minimum even if some city bucks up right away to fund a new arena.

 

There is also almost no way this joke of an arena can be altered to NHL standards by next season so there is a lot of risk that even if the team started the season on a 20 game road trip, that they wouldn’t have an arena ready to go for their home games.  If the team isn’t relocated this summer, I kind of expect them to play some of their “home” games in another team’s arena.

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If I were Quebec City and I were approached by the NHL to take over ownership of the Coyotes, I would tell them, "Bien sur, I'll take over the franchise - but only if you 

1. perform a disbandment draft on the existing team (we don't want their players) while allowing us to retain the picks previously traded to the team

2. fire the whole managment structure, since we plan on hiring our own people, and

3. allow us to do an expansion draft on the same terms as Vegas and Seattle did to fill our team's roster.

Spoiler

Autrement, va te faire enculer!

That is all."

 

:bigblush:

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7 hours ago, mll said:

“Alex is committed, Alex has the resources, and the Coyotes aren’t going anywhere,” Bettman said from the NHL Board of Governors meetings in December. “Well, they’re going somewhere else other than Glendale, but it’s in the greater Phoenix area.”

"They're going somewhere" - G. Buttman 

lol

Tell the truth Gary, you keep getting caught with your pants down.

Kinda like this pervert:

Auston Matthews Shirtless, Underwear, Girlfriend | Famewatcher

 

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