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17 minutes ago, 250Integra said:

My guess for Canucks players:

 

USA: Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Miller

Sweden: OEL, Pettersson

Czech Republic: Halak


Potentials:

Garland (USA), Horvat (Canada), Hoglander (Sweden)

Man really though to cheer for Canada without any Canucks representation while we have Canucks playing core positions in the USA and Sweden team. 

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5 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Same. Not excited about this at all and I wish we weren't going.

 

Two Canadian citizens are being held on trumped up charges and a third had his sentence upgraded to Death, because the Chinese government is upset that we honored an Extradition agreement with the US.

 

And now we're going to reward this genocidal nation by attending their party? <_<

And about that. What a strong leader would do is cancel Canada’s entire participation in the Olympics.

 

Trudeau is too weak. He has no issues allowing ethics violations that Jodi Wilson-Raybould uncovered. He made her the problem and removed her and another distinguished person from Cabinet. This is our PM.

:picard: 
 

Two Canadians have suffered for 2 long years and may end up dying. Unacceptable 

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  • Roger Neilsons Towel changed the title to (Official) NHL, NHLPA reach agreement with IIHF to participate in 2022 Beijing Olympics

I have conflicting feelings about these upcoming games, but there’s a couple things I want to shed some light on before deciding what if any actions should be taken.

 

Turning off the TV has zero effect on anything. Tv ratings are done by Nielsen sampling multi-thousands of households. If you haven’t signed up for their panel or have their equipment it won’t show up in the data.

 

We as fans face zero of the consequences of a boycott. It’s the athletes who have worked for years through blood sweat and tears to get into peak condition for the biggest stage that would suffer. For many of these people this one olympics may be their only chance to be able to say “I was an Olympian”. Do we decide to take that dream away from hundreds of some of the best among us?

 

What impact does not having future generations inspired to follow for 8 years have on a sport and how competitive we are? Every athlete has a person they watched as a kid that inspired them to follow the Olympic dream. Sports teach young kids important life skills they can use in the future. This may be the only chance they have to create that spark.

 

If I were on Nielsen’s panel I’d probably not watch in order for my displeasure to be measured and noted, but since I’m not I probably will if it goes ahead. It’s a tough call either way and I can see both sides arguments as compelling.
 

The only thing I can be glad about is that this is the last games for a while where it will be a controversial decision whether we stay or go. Future hosts are all democracies up to 2032. I hope that the IOC continues to reward those who do deserve the potential benefits an olympics host nation can get.

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On 9/3/2021 at 8:51 AM, Jaimito said:

PP1, who do you want to see? 

 

McDavid, MacKinnon, Crosby, Stamkos, Doughty? 

 

Drooling already...

I think we'll see Makar or maybe Dougie Hamilton in place of Doughty on PP1, as well as somebody like Point, Marner, or Huberdeau in place of Stamkos.

20 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Same. Not excited about this at all and I wish we weren't going.

 

Two Canadian citizens are being held on trumped up charges and a third had his sentence upgraded to Death, because the Chinese government is upset that we honored an Extradition agreement with the US.

 

And now we're going to reward this genocidal nation by attending their party? <_<

I lean towards preferring Canada not send athletes, but I think there's something to be said for having our boys go and just completely embarrassing China on the world stage in hockey. Beat them by 20.

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Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon

McDavid - Horvat - Hyman

Huberdeau - Barzal - Point

O'Reilly - Toews - Bergeron

Scheifele, Stone, Marner

 

Toews - Makar

Theodore - Pietrangelo

Pelech - Pulock

Reilly, Morrissey, Chabot

 

Price

Fleury

Blackwood, Kuemper

 

Lots of pre-existing chemistry here, which is usually a key for Canada. The top line all trains together. McDavid and Hyman will be teammates and McDavid played with Horvat at the WJC. The third line all plays in the same conference and have played Playoff rounds against each other. The fourth line is full of experience and two way play. Hyman is obviously only there to be with McDavid and having Horvat that high in the lineup is also debatable. Toews' experience will be valued highly and his matchup ability will be very useful, but this assumes he looks good this year. 

 

Defense is all teammates playing together. Canada's defense isn't as stacked as it used to be. Pelech and Pulock make it as a pairing because of their defensive and two-way ability. 

 

Goalies are Price and whoever is playing the best. 

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On 9/3/2021 at 9:17 AM, Brad Marchand said:

Groups are already out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2022_Winter_Olympics_–_Men's_tournament

 

I brought up Canada laying a beatdown on China because they're in Group A along with Germany and the United States. I want to see each of those teams mercilessly run up the score.

 

Can't embarrass them too much or they'll imprison another Michael. :mellow:

 

 

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9 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon

McDavid - Horvat - Hyman

Huberdeau - Barzal - Point

O'Reilly - Toews - Bergeron

Scheifele, Stone, Marner

 

Toews - Makar

Theodore - Pietrangelo

Pelech - Pulock

Reilly, Morrissey, Chabot

 

Price

Fleury

Blackwood, Kuemper

 

Lots of pre-existing chemistry here, which is usually a key for Canada. The top line all trains together. McDavid and Hyman will be teammates and McDavid played with Horvat at the WJC. The third line all plays in the same conference and have played Playoff rounds against each other. The fourth line is full of experience and two way play. Hyman is obviously only there to be with McDavid and having Horvat that high in the lineup is also debatable. Toews' experience will be valued highly and his matchup ability will be very useful, but this assumes he looks good this year. 

 

Defense is all teammates playing together. Canada's defense isn't as stacked as it used to be. Pelech and Pulock make it as a pairing because of their defensive and two-way ability. 

 

Goalies are Price and whoever is playing the best. 

There are far better option if you want “pre-existing” chemistry. For instance, you can have Marner and Tavares, with McDavid, as a line, which would be a lot better than what you presented. Point and Stamkos, is also almost guaranteed, if both were selected. Considering, the coach is their NHL coach.

 

9 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Horvat not getting a lot of respect in people’s projections.

 

Imagine what he could do with elite wingers and more favourable offensive deployment.

 

Thankfully I think the people actually choosing the team see Horvats value more than TSN analysts.

As much as I want Horvat on the team. Canada is just too deep at center, for him to make the team. Maybe as a 13th forward, but I don’t see him getting the nod over guys like Couturier, Scheifele, or even Toews. Who are as good as him on the defensive side, and a mile better than him on the offensive side.

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On 9/3/2021 at 3:21 PM, JM_ said:

I'd rather see a country-based tournament run by the NHL or IIHF. Its the same thing with none of the supporting of the Chinese government. 

I get it.   But it's the Olympics, which isn't a small thing and shouldn't be ignored either.    It could also be the Olive Branch that fixes all of this.  

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On 9/3/2021 at 8:44 PM, 24K PureCool said:

Man really though to cheer for Canada without any Canucks representation while we have Canucks playing core positions in the USA and Sweden team. 

Nah.   Your supposed to cheer for your country first every time.   If somehow we get bounced then watching Sweden next...who cares about the US or Russia .. hate those guys as soon as we dawn the uniforms (ok don't really hate them - actually love the rivalry).   You always cheer for Canada no matter what.   If you don't like that then maybe move to your favourite players country.   Ok that is a joke.   But come on.   This also gives us a chance to cheer for other NHLers we respect but don't cheer for when we play them.   I'm actually a little embarrassed at how many US players we have that might play lol.    In 2010 did you cheer when Kesler made it tough for us?!!! No freaking way.   Horvat will for sure get an invite, and might even play.  

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5 hours ago, shiznak said:

There are far better option if you want “pre-existing” chemistry. For instance, you can have Marner and Tavares, with McDavid, as a line, which would be a lot better than what you presented. Point and Stamkos, is also almost guaranteed, if both were selected. Considering, the coach is their NHL coach.

 

As much as I want Horvat on the team. Canada is just too deep at center, for him to make the team. Maybe as a 13th forward, but I don’t see him getting the nod over guys like Couturier, Scheifele, or even Toews. Who are as good as him on the defensive side, and a mile better than him on the offensive side.

Canada is always too deep at center.   They always pick extra C's and play them on the wing just in case.   Horvat for sure could be a winger or the extra man. 

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16 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon

McDavid - Horvat - Hyman

Huberdeau - Barzal - Point

O'Reilly - Toews - Bergeron

Scheifele, Stone, Marner

 

Toews - Makar

Theodore - Pietrangelo

Pelech - Pulock

Reilly, Morrissey, Chabot

 

Price

Fleury

Blackwood, Kuemper

 

Lots of pre-existing chemistry here, which is usually a key for Canada. The top line all trains together. McDavid and Hyman will be teammates and McDavid played with Horvat at the WJC. The third line all plays in the same conference and have played Playoff rounds against each other. The fourth line is full of experience and two way play. Hyman is obviously only there to be with McDavid and having Horvat that high in the lineup is also debatable. Toews' experience will be valued highly and his matchup ability will be very useful, but this assumes he looks good this year. 

 

Defense is all teammates playing together. Canada's defense isn't as stacked as it used to be. Pelech and Pulock make it as a pairing because of their defensive and two-way ability. 

 

Goalies are Price and whoever is playing the best. 

Where is Tavares?  Where is Stamkos?  Remove Horvat and Hyman.    That will probably be your forward group on paper to start the Olympic roster.   Only thing that would change that is injuries. Toews possibly too but think your right and he will probably play.    Not sure about that D either.  

 

This team, like usual, is stacked upfront. Where it lacks is both on D and goaltending is a big ?!  too.   Sucks we don't have any up and coming goalies these days like we always had before.   Luongo and Broduer ... Price and MAF seems like a big step down compared to the past ... 

 

Edit: Add Ekblad and Hamilton and we look just fine lol...

 

Horvat won't make the roster either ....  the extra is likely Barzal. 

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10 hours ago, shiznak said:

There are far better option if you want “pre-existing” chemistry. For instance, you can have Marner and Tavares, with McDavid, as a line, which would be a lot better than what you presented. Point and Stamkos, is also almost guaranteed, if both were selected. Considering, the coach is their NHL coach.

 

As much as I want Horvat on the team. Canada is just too deep at center, for him to make the team. Maybe as a 13th forward, but I don’t see him getting the nod over guys like Couturier, Scheifele, or even Toews. Who are as good as him on the defensive side, and a mile better than him on the offensive side.

 

I forgot Tavares, he could slot in over one of the vets for sure. I'm not sure who Marner would displace on RW; even if you take out Hyman I would rather have Stone or Scheifele. Stamkos is a good option for an extra forward, but I don't think he's at the same level he used to be. He would be a power play specialist and a vet for the room like Thornton in 2016. 

 

I think Canada could really value Horvat's playstyle and skillset. He can play the bumper position as well as anyone and can be thrown out there to play heavy minutes. Of course its still a stretch considering its Canada; I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make the team. 

 

4 hours ago, IBatch said:

Where is Tavares?  Where is Stamkos?  Remove Horvat and Hyman.    That will probably be your forward group on paper to start the Olympic roster.   Only thing that would change that is injuries. Toews possibly too but think your right and he will probably play.    Not sure about that D either.  

 

This team, like usual, is stacked upfront. Where it lacks is both on D and goaltending is a big ?!  too.   Sucks we don't have any up and coming goalies these days like we always had before.   Luongo and Broduer ... Price and MAF seems like a big step down compared to the past ... 

 

Edit: Add Ekblad and Hamilton and we look just fine lol...

 

Horvat won't make the roster either ....  the extra is likely Barzal. 

 

Forgot about Tavares and Ekblad. I agree that the defense and goaltending doesn't look as strong as it has in the past. 

 

Version 2:

 

Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon

Tavares - McDavid - Stone

Huberdeau - Barzal - Point

O'Reilly - Toews - Bergeron

Horvat, Scheifele

 

Toews - Makar

Theodore - Pietrangelo

Pelech - Pulock

Reilly, Ekblad, Morrissey

 

Price 

Fleury

Blackwood, Kuemper

 

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4 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

I forgot Tavares, he could slot in over one of the vets for sure. I'm not sure who Marner would displace on RW; even if you take out Hyman I would rather have Stone or Scheifele. Stamkos is a good option for an extra forward, but I don't think he's at the same level he used to be. He would be a power play specialist and a vet for the room like Thornton in 2016. 

 

I think Canada could really value Horvat's playstyle and skillset. He can play the bumper position as well as anyone and can be thrown out there to play heavy minutes. Of course its still a stretch considering its Canada; I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make the team. 

 

 

Forgot about Tavares and Ekblad. I agree that the defense and goaltending doesn't look as strong as it has in the past. 

 

Version 2:

 

Marchand - Crosby - MacKinnon

Tavares - McDavid - Stone

Huberdeau - Barzal - Point

O'Reilly - Toews - Bergeron

Horvat, Scheifele

 

Toews - Makar

Theodore - Pietrangelo

Pelech - Pulock

Reilly, Ekblad, Morrissey

 

Price 

Fleury

Blackwood, Kuemper

No worries.  Like usual, Canada can ice two teams.    Every time at least one guy slots in over a better performer and the hockey universe freaks out a little.   Aside from Torino, it worked out.   Nagano too - but Salt Lake made up for it. 

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On 9/3/2021 at 8:19 PM, You Mad Bro? said:

Canada will have an amazing team. Stacked at Center. But I won’t be watching. Screw those dirty murdering communists running that country. 

Shouldn't even participate. &^@# them. Host a World Cup of Hockey type deal and decide where to host it and so forth. 

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